They should invent a new cable standard that universally does the same thing on all devices. I think there might a big market for that.
It already exists and it's called lighting. Since it's actually useful, the UE is looking into outlawing it.
New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
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#92Please, for the love of god, make it obvious if a USB C cable can be used as a display cable or not. One thing that absolutely blows about USB C is that they all look the same, but to connect my LG UltraFine to my GTX 2070 I had to do literally hours of research before I could find a reliable cable on Amazon that was a “bidirectional USB C DisplayPort” cable because I naively assumed that USB C was a general purpose…
> Having one plug be capable (or incapable) of doing so many things melted my brain. That's not different than USB-A. You can have charging-only, USB 2, USB 3, etc. cables. We had this for decades.
USB 3 is color-coded and charging only Micro-B cables are an abomination that should be tossed into the trash.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> most people will have to guess, and will get the more expensive one “just in case” Good. The more full-features and the less underfeatured USB cables are bought and found around - the better for everyone. I don't buy/grab a USB cable "for the drive" I expect it to do the job every time I happen to need a USB cable. In fact I'd like a single ultimate USB-n-All logo to exist which would mean the cable is fully and re…
A 2m cable with 100W charging (the highest currently, but not for long) and video using Thunderbolt 3 is £70 inc sales tax, it's also stiffer and heavier than other cables. How many of those do you plan to just have lying around for convenience? My XPS 15 already takes more power than that so has its own charger with a physical USB C connector (but also accepts standard USB C chargers with lower wattage). The next ve…
I can find cables claiming the same spec (100W, TB3, 2m) for 20-30 EUR. Less if you drop the length requirement -- 2m seems quite long, especially if you're using TB3 to connect a laptop to a display. I agree that there's a place for lower-spec cables that are cheaper and thinner.
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#95I remember reading USB-C cables are still relativley expensive to manufacture. Wonder how long before baseline cable quality is good and cheap enough that any cable will do.
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#96So it’s good that the fruit company are finally going to be forced by the EU to implement USB-C on their phones at same time as telling me that I need a matrix to explain which usb cable I need.
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#97I know at some point I'm sure I asked for fewer connector types. Seeing it now: I suspect unique connectors to a purpose is insanely useful usability. Immediate failure feedback has it's uses. See NEMA outlet variation [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#/media/File:NEM...
I wish laptops would've standardised on the 20V barrel jack (maybe with slightly different sizes to denote current capability), like they almost did before USB-C came along.
"maybe with slightly different sizes to denote current capability"
That's what we had - 10 invonpatiable barrel-jack charging connectors. At a friend's place and want to use his charge? Tough luck. Congratulations.
Why do you need supplies with different current to be incompatiable?
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#98They should invent a new cable standard that universally does the same thing on all devices. I think there might a big market for that.
It already exists and it's called lighting. Since it's actually useful, the UE is looking into outlawing it.
Can't help but think that it's exactly what GP had in mind.
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#99In classic USB committee style, they try to do the right thing and still bungle the naming/marketing. Just like the absurd “hi-speed/super speed” debacle, they fail to mention what people really want to know: “Will this drive my monitor?” — bandwidth tells me most of what I need to know but to the average user it makes no sense. “Is this a fast cable for my external drive”? “Is this really expensive cable overkill fo…
I don't know much about altmodes. What does the cable need to do to make displayport work right?
I have USB cables that just work with charging, some give me USB 2.0 data and one very expensive that lets me extend my USB hub/dongle. The latter works with video and power delivery. I tried cheaper cables before and something always went wrong.
So even cables are "smart" now.
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#100This is all too confusing to me. Why isn't there a mandatory (or reference) specification string that combines all the necessary, useful information in one neat package instead of countless repetitive and easily misunderstood logos? Something like (just a basic, messy example) USB-C/ / / / / /etc. I had to buy some cables recently and really couldn't pick one nor distinguish particular features at glance, and the ite…
Not sure, but I suspect that large part of the problem are non-standard compliant cables that USB-IF naturally do not want to endorse.