Why is there no mention of covid in this story?
We all know covid is one of the reasons behind this oil spill. Also - were the oil workers wearing masks!? If they weren't wearing masks this disaster could be so much worse!
A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast
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#42Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast
#43I remember after the Exxon Valdez oil spill wondering when we were going to get off of petroleum. 32 years later and the cars are bigger and less efficient.
Automobiles kill more kids than anything else in America: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmsr1804754#:~:text=.... . When are we going to finally develop a reasonable transit system?
This petroleum based life style is killing our children.
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#44It'll just slowly go back into the ground where it came... I find it funny that a lot of self-proclaimed "environmentalists" who love to espouse the benefits of using "natural" stuff get outraged by things like this, as if oil wasn't a naturally occurring substance.
Oil is not naturally occurring on the surface of the earth. It can only be formed underground, it is extremely poisonous, it kills almost every living organism. You can say that deep underground oil is natural, but on the surface of the earth certainly not.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Brea_Tar_Pits
It isn’t formed on the surface, but it is naturally occurring.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Pipeline incidents have been roughly constant over time: https://portal.phmsa.dot.gov/analytics/saw.dll?Portalpages&P ... I couldn't get the link to work. If it's flat, but the amount of oil being transported is up, isn't that still a decline? >Edit 2: NOAA data of all spills does not show a downward trend: https://incidentnews.noaa.gov/raw/index I fed the chart into excel and generated a graph: https://i.imgur.com/…
Sorry about the pipeline link, it's ALL REPORTED INCIDENT 20 YEAR TREND on this page: https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/data-and-statistics/pipeline/pipel... . I don't know if amount transported by pipeline is going up. I appreciate your optimism. The downward trend in amount spilled is nice to see, but that value is unknown for nearly half the entries, so I wouldn't read too much into it. I'm not saying it's impossible that…
This makes for an interesting thought experiment: purposefully combining oil rigs and pipelines with populated areas, so that in case something goes wrong humans get hit first. I imagine then we'd hold oil infrastructure maintenance to a higher standard than the appalling “monthly surface checks”.
Of course, it's idealistic and humans would never behave this way.
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#46Oil derricks right in the middle of neighborhoods? Great idea! Apartments? Not in my backyard!!1 Oil platforms a few miles offshore a busy public beach? Sure why not? Offshore wind farms? Illegal!!
My understanding is that plans have been put in motion to eliminate all oil wells from the LA area.
Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast
#47It'll just slowly go back into the ground where it came... I find it funny that a lot of self-proclaimed "environmentalists" who love to espouse the benefits of using "natural" stuff get outraged by things like this, as if oil wasn't a naturally occurring substance.
Oil is not naturally occurring on the surface of the earth. It can only be formed underground, it is extremely poisonous, it kills almost every living organism. You can say that deep underground oil is natural, but on the surface of the earth certainly not.
it is extremely poisonous, it kills almost every living organism
You may want to look up the history of the invention of petroleum jelly...
Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast
#48Oil derricks right in the middle of neighborhoods? Great idea! Apartments? Not in my backyard!!1 Oil platforms a few miles offshore a busy public beach? Sure why not? Offshore wind farms? Illegal!!
The offshore platforms are in federal waters.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry about the pipeline link, it's ALL REPORTED INCIDENT 20 YEAR TREND on this page: https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/data-and-statistics/pipeline/pipel... . I don't know if amount transported by pipeline is going up. I appreciate your optimism. The downward trend in amount spilled is nice to see, but that value is unknown for nearly half the entries, so I wouldn't read too much into it. I'm not saying it's impossible that…
This makes for an interesting thought experiment: purposefully combining oil rigs and pipelines with populated areas, so that in case something goes wrong humans get hit first. I imagine then we'd hold oil infrastructure maintenance to a higher standard than the appalling “monthly surface checks”. Of course, it's idealistic and humans would never behave this way.
Aren't there already pipelines to crowded areas? I mean, that's where they're typically consumed right? Also, it's not like pipelines that are in the middle of nowhere could be replaced with pipelines in urban areas. The whole point of pipelines is to cross between where it's produced and where it's consumed. Even if you built a bunch of pipelines in populated areas for no reason in the hopes that it will gather more awareness, I suspect that what will happen isn't some sort effort to improve pipelines nationwide, only the ones in populated areas.
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#50Oil derricks right in the middle of neighborhoods? Great idea! Apartments? Not in my backyard!!1 Oil platforms a few miles offshore a busy public beach? Sure why not? Offshore wind farms? Illegal!!
In all fairness, these rigs probably predate the great increase in population in OC. I doubt NIMBYs would go for this nowadays.
Who do you imagine would go for it? These wells have been nothing but a disaster from Santa Barbara on down.