It always makes me laugh that dead bodies are a common vision on US media, but a nipple is something that makes people throw up their hands in horror.
Where Have All the Sex Scenes Gone?
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Re: Where Have All the Sex Scenes Gone?
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Aren't there plenty of sex scenes in TV shows these days? Very probably. TFA does not include the string 'TV' or 'television', but has 16 occurrences of 'movie', so perhaps you're arguing against a point that's not being asserted. > I don't understand sentences like these. And that's okay. As TFA points out, China (and elsewhere) are significant markets with specific and (to western culture) peculiar requirements i…
> The question is cogent, concise, and valid -- if you're a movie maker (motivated by money/fame/whatever) why would you try to contend with complex and difficult material if you could instead, as they author asks, more easily rake in billions by having two asexual fictional character punch aliens. I guess my confusion is stemmed from the fact that I don't think sex scenes are inherently more complex and difficult th…
Sure, and I agree that sex scenes aren't inherently more complex / difficult to film than fight scenes (caveats around CGI, green screen, etc complexities that are more likely required in the latter).
As intimated though, the challenge is keeping China happy - there's been a constant series of articles about this phenomenon.
Beyond the acceptance of ultra-violence along with a distaste for sexuality, consider all the political hand-wringing that led Disney to the Iron Man 3 fracas. [0] Or informed their decisions around promoting any films with a non-white protagonist. [1] But really, any web search on 'how are the chinese market cuts of marvel films different' will get you a slew of results.
Aside - about 15 years ago, while in Hong Kong, I picked up a bootleg DVD of Love Actually (a highly popular, but arguably shite, film). Turned out that the local cut of that film excised every appearance of Martin Freeman & Joanna Page.
[0] https://screenrant.com/iron-man-3-china-version-different-sc...
[1] https://qz.com/quartzy/1231764/the-story-behind-the-racist-r...
Re: Where Have All the Sex Scenes Gone?
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
People eat in movies all the time. Hitting the toilet, no. Guys don’t think about going to the toilet every few minutes for the majority of adulthood. People’s hormonal drives don’t push them into social near-life decisions for other sorts of stuff besides sex.
That's fair, and that also explains why "unregular" sex is shown the most, and not "healthy/regular" sex.
How do you mean “unregular”? Lots of movies are showing consummation of desire, or otherwise healthy sex in maybe risky or unwise circumstances.
Films like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo show maltreatment and restorative sex both. I’ve heard that porn tends to unregular, but I haven’t made time for that research, the porn I’ve seen would be worth aspiring to.
Re: Where Have All the Sex Scenes Gone?
#144There's actually one really interesting point in here: Zoomers are incredibly "puritanical" and anti-sex. It seems extremely weird that one of the most liberal generations ever is so sex negative.
I don't buy this. A gen-X friend returned to college to change careers, and if anything sex and sexuality are much more present than when he was at the same school 20+ years ago.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
And when we do show sex, it's in ways where it's always "complicated". Sex, according to the mainstream, must involve some sort of transgressive participation. You must be committing adultery, or be "in the closet", or committing incest, or doing it with total disregard for responsibilities, or doing it in inappropriate circumstances, or by committing rape. Unless you're watching a deliberately romantic film, I don't…
That's a different point. People don't show "normal" sex in movies for the same reasons they don't show people eating, going to the toilet and that sort of stuff.
Doesn't have to be like that, though!
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnRLD17Uh8
Perfectly safe for enslaved workers, btw.! :-)
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#146The overseas market, specifically China, probably plays a much bigger role in self-censoring cinema than most people are comfortable admitting. Nobody wants good cinema, movies that dig into and challenge the human condition. They want money. In the last 20-30 years, we have seen the strip-mall-ization of the movie theater. Every city has at least one, they all look the same, and drop in at any time and you'll see th…
I'd mostly concur, but had to think of at least two movies which stuck, and weren't that scripted conforming to mainstream rules, no B-Movies either.
One would be The Limits of Control from 2009
[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1135092/
another I Origins from 2014
[2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2884206/
I'm sure there are more, but can't remember right now, or don't care that much.
Re: Where Have All the Sex Scenes Gone?
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you give an example of unnecessary sex scenes? I watch netflix shows often enough and can't think of a show that had a unnecessary sex scenes every 6-8 minutes. The one "exception" that comes to mind with a lot of sex scenes are Sex Education and Sexify but for those shows the sex scenes are hardly unnecessary given the subject matter. I'm not trolling or trying to be argumentative here, I'm genuinely trying to…
Game of Thrones, True Blood, Banshee
None of those are Netflix shows