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A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate group of people. It’s just deserts for decades of opposing environmental policy. I hope the residents of Huntington Beach are so inconvenienced that they have to relocate to their second homes in Texas.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate group of people. It’s just deserts for decades of opposing environmental policy. I hope the residents of Huntington Beach are so inconvenienced that they have to relocate to their second homes in Texas.

This will reconsider nothing and just find a way to rob state coffers to pay for cleanup. Basically every calamity that befalls rich coastal residents is handled like I described. Why will this one be different?

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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post #12

Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate group of people. It’s just deserts for decades of opposing environmental policy. I hope the residents of Huntington Beach are so inconvenienced that they have to relocate to their second homes in Texas.

This will reconsider nothing and just find a way to rob state coffers to pay for cleanup. Basically every calamity that befalls rich coastal residents is handled like I described. Why will this one be different?

Of course it won’t be different. But I’d rather it happened in Huntington Beach than Venice or San Pedro, because the people there actually deserve it.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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It'll just slowly go back into the ground where it came... I find it funny that a lot of self-proclaimed "environmentalists" who love to espouse the benefits of using "natural" stuff get outraged by things like this, as if oil wasn't a naturally occurring substance.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will reconsider nothing and just find a way to rob state coffers to pay for cleanup. Basically every calamity that befalls rich coastal residents is handled like I described. Why will this one be different?

Of course it won’t be different. But I’d rather it happened in Huntington Beach than Venice or San Pedro, because the people there actually deserve it.

Perhaps you should seek out a therapist in order to process your violent tendencies and the subconscious traumas that could be leading towards such behavior.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Southern California has considerable oil and natural gas seepage off shore. Many of the oil rigs aren't drilling but simply harvesting the seeps. They passively collect 100-150 barrels a day from the Coal Oil Point Seep Field. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Oil_Point_seep_field The oil in question was not from a seep however. It came from the processing platform Elly that supports two other drilling rigs in the…

Seems like the "massive oil spill" from the link is equivalent to half a year of natural seepage from this single seep field.

I have no idea how a surface spill compares deep water seeps but the seeps have been happening for hundreds of thousands of years.

Not sure where I am going with this but I just thought it was interesting.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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It is deemed to be repeated, as long as most people are too indifferent to push this kind of unjustified environmental damage to the headlines

But oil spills have been trending down over the past few decades, even as oil shipments have increased: https://ourworldindata.org/oil-spills . You're right it won't go to zero, in the same sense that airplane crashes won't ever go to zero. however that's because it's really hard to prevent all airplane crashes/oil spills, not because people are "too indifferent".

Airplane crashes will continue as long as people use air travel, which is unlikely to ever change. The best we can do to prevent airplane crashes would be to build in enough security in airplanes so that enough amount of systems has to fail before a crash can occur, including eliminating human failure and cascading failures.

Oil spills will also continue as long we extract oil from the bottom of the ocean (and to a degree land). In contrast to airplanes however, we should have a future where we stop extracting it from the earth. In order prevent climate change we need to stop today, and every day we continue to pump it up we are stepping further into catastrophe.

We can have a future were electric planes flies in the sky. We can't have a future were we continue pumping up more oil. The oil need to stay where it is.

Re: A massive oil spill in the Pacific Ocean reached the Southern California coast

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It'll just slowly go back into the ground where it came... I find it funny that a lot of self-proclaimed "environmentalists" who love to espouse the benefits of using "natural" stuff get outraged by things like this, as if oil wasn't a naturally occurring substance.

It floats on top of water and kills life.
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