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Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by bmn__ »

cblconfederate wrote: post #34

Dear Microsoft, You fools, you own a gate to the internet. When i search 8*9 in the start menu, show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9". Make the menu auto-complete with the titles of the first 5 web results instead of random ads. Make it work well as an actually useful extension of search. Forget about edge and bing.com, you will care about the brand name later. (You can th…

KRunner in KDE 5 (default shortcut: Alt+F2, but also replicated at the bottom of the start menu) does that. The modules for different purposes (like running applications/shell commands, searching browser tabs/history/bookmarks, searching files/emails/contacts, openstreetmap, etc.) are pluggable and can be easily disabled if the functionality is not desired by the user.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by mavhc »

int_19h wrote: post #171
mrweasel wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some how not the answer I expected, but I can see the argument. I keep nothing in my browser, besides a few bookmarks, so it didn't occur to me that someone would care about those things being automatically transferred over.

It can be transferred. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/what-s-im...

Then I'd have to sign in to MS instead of Google to store everything, I've acheived nothing.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by make3 »

flohofwoe wrote: post #58
cblconfederate wrote: post #34

Dear Microsoft, You fools, you own a gate to the internet. When i search 8*9 in the start menu, show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9". Make the menu auto-complete with the titles of the first 5 web results instead of random ads. Make it work well as an actually useful extension of search. Forget about edge and bing.com, you will care about the brand name later. (You can th…

No thanks, I'd rather have a simple and obvious checkbox to disable all this sleazy web crap in the Windows UI. If I want to search the web, I use a web browser. If I want to search my machine, I would like to use the Windows search feature ( if it would actually work).

seriously I hate that they randomly add websearch results to the search bar so much

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by benhurmarcel »

flohofwoe wrote: post #58
cblconfederate wrote: post #34

Dear Microsoft, You fools, you own a gate to the internet. When i search 8*9 in the start menu, show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9". Make the menu auto-complete with the titles of the first 5 web results instead of random ads. Make it work well as an actually useful extension of search. Forget about edge and bing.com, you will care about the brand name later. (You can th…

No thanks, I'd rather have a simple and obvious checkbox to disable all this sleazy web crap in the Windows UI. If I want to search the web, I use a web browser. If I want to search my machine, I would like to use the Windows search feature ( if it would actually work).

But it’s because of an execution problem. On Apple devices nobody complains that Spotlight searches the web, most people like it.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by account42 »

jraph wrote: post #133
Jedd wrote: post #124

Alt-F2 on KDE brings up krunner - a small text input floating dialog in which you could type, say, 8 * 9 , and be gifted the value 72. No spam accompanies this result. Alternatively if I type 'hacker', I shall be shown the three windows I currently have open, along with the 7 bookmarks, that match that string. Otherwise it's a handy shortcut to launch any application I know is installed on the local host. I believe i…

KRunner is one of the many areas where KDE is "secretly amazing". The level of polish, robustness, ease-of-use and efficiency of today's KDE versions is incredible. It is lightweight, too. This is the desktop environment that stays out of the way, but here when you need it. There are no strong decisions that surprises anyone, things are familiar, there is no hostility towards users requesting obvious features. The us…

> The level of polish, robustness, ease-of-use and efficiency of today's KDE versions is incredible. It is lightweight, too. This is the desktop environment that stays out of the way, but here when you need it. There are no strong decisions that surprises anyone, things are familiar, there is no hostility towards users requesting obvious features. The user interface does not change so much from versions to versions, but is rather improved (a lot, in tiny ways).

KDE 4 was pretty messy - from instability to questionable features or lack of features - 4.0 "released" too early, nepomuk (and later baloo) being a resource hog, the PIM suite pulling in two database servers, amarok only supporting fuzzy filters, virtual desktop support stagnating in favor of "activities", kwin compositing had lots of glitches. Even krunner used to crash or hang frequently. I still have ~/.p script to quickly kill and restart plasma (via krunner, hah) from those days because it would fuck up so often.

Really glad that they spend the time since then motly polishing and KDE 5 has been much better about not shoving unwanted crap down users throats.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by account42 »

politelemon wrote: post #15
blunte wrote: post #2

People go to the name they know. Since for many (most?) people, the word “google” is a verb meaning to search the web, they naturally will prefer that service even if they don’t know why it might be better than whatever is the default. Meanwhile, it reminds me that we developers don’t understand users or don’t provide understandable interfaces for them. Observe many people and you’ll see a maddening pattern of browse…

> Observe many people and you’ll see a maddening pattern of browser use: they will use any available method to get to google, and then they will put a url into the google search text box. Perhaps the address bar is inconveniently too high on the screen, or maybe they just don’t know what a url is. I would have been dismissive of this a few years ago, but I would have been wrong. I have seen many people including deve…

> I would have been dismissive of this a few years ago, but I would have been wrong. I have seen many people including developers, _WEB_ developers, do this. Some of them can't be bothered to change their default search engine even though the option is available, it's almost muscle memory to type 'www.google.com' into the search box, and then click a result, and then search for what they wanted on google.com.

I go to google.com rather than searching trough the address bar because the google.com homepage has a link to tell it "no, I did not actually want German google" whenever it forgets those cookies while the search result pages do not have that link.

Of course for a while now it will still push localized results with no way to disable that.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by brettermeier »

bogwog wrote: post #86
smhenderson wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finally got so fed up with Edge quietly changing my preferences back to their defaults I decided to completely stop using it. I have an MS account, Office 365 for work, etc. I thought, this is great, I'll continue using Firefox for personal and Edge for work, it integrates with my company account, that's neat. But no, they can't leave well enough alone and just let me use my machine the way I want to. I don't want…

Why not switch to linux? Even if you can’t use an Office 365 alternative, there’s a browser version.

Linux has all these driver problems... most things won't work with plug'n'play... I understand why people stick to Windows.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by bogwog »

brettermeier wrote: post #188
bogwog wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not switch to linux? Even if you can’t use an Office 365 alternative, there’s a browser version.

Linux has all these driver problems... most things won't work with plug'n'play... I understand why people stick to Windows.

> Linux has all these driver problems... most things won't work with plug'n'play... I understand why people stick to Windows.

Linux of the early 2000s maybe. I've never had a driver problem with Linux, and it has been my primary OS on my desktop and various laptops for the past ~7 years, and I've installed it on computers for other people many times.

Is driver support worse than on Windows? Of course; hardware manufacturers usually only bother to make drivers for Windows.

But is it a problem most people will run in to? Definitely not.

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