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Post by ickelbawd »

nojito wrote: post #56
xelxebar wrote: post #15

What about the losers? Please fill in this table first, then we can talk about the whys and hows: | # sprinters | # non-sprinters | --------+----------------+-----------------+ CEO | | | --------+----------------|-----------------| non-CEO | | | --------+----------------+-----------------+ The "CEO Genome Project" home page looks just like promotion for a book. I guess you have to buy it before judging whether it off…

You don’t need to study non-ceos if you are trying to understand what a ceo is.

That’s not true. If you only look at CEOs you won’t be able to tell which behaviors are unique to CEOs and which are not. If you don’t eliminate these potentially universal traits and behaviors you’re setting yourself up to be be wrong due to biased data. More generally: how can you possibly understand what something is without understanding also what it is not?

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Post by blagie »

onion2k wrote: post #4

Something that has always surprised me a bit is how many developers want to run their own large companies. Wanting to run a small company is largely about personal freedom that comes for not having a boss, but wanting to be the head of a large business is a whole different ballgame. It's a role that encompasses strategy, leadership, and management - 3 things that can only really be done by talking to people and under…

The flip side is that one will be a much better senior engineer after having been a CEO (or even a manager, or just had a diversity of roles). Most managers say they care more about soft skills than hard skills, and that's actually how you build those soft skills.

Most engineers like tech, but have little exposure to how they interact with the larger organizational structure and design, with customers, with fundraising, and with a slew of other things. Stepping through a few roles gives that visibility. That makes for a better engineer.

I'll start and end my career in a tech role, but I do periodically do dives into other sorts of roles in the meantime.

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Post by honkdaddy »

elzbardico wrote: post #63

Come from a rich, influential family. Be white. Be male. Be ruthless. Come from an Ivy League institution. If you have trouble being accepted into it, remember that if George bush could get into Yale, every other prick like you have a chance too. Have no morals. Despise the working class and fuck them thoroughly every chance you have to show the pricks in Wall Street you are one of them. Be a sweet talker.

The CEOs of Google and Apple, two of the most powerful companies in the world, have backgrounds entirely diametric to your advice.

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Post by Retric »

sokoloff wrote: post #49
Retric wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a native speaker average is almost exclusively used to for mean and people specify median or mode when that’s what they are talking about. The same way people say mean without specifying arithmetic, geometric, or harmonic mean then it’s the arithmetic mean. It’s only when someone says something like the average family rather than saying the average income when things get ambiguous. Typical on the other hand is clo…

I generally think of “typical” as being the median rather than the mean.

Ops yep, I meant median.

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Post by tamade »

elzbardico wrote: post #63

Come from a rich, influential family. Be white. Be male. Be ruthless. Come from an Ivy League institution. If you have trouble being accepted into it, remember that if George bush could get into Yale, every other prick like you have a chance too. Have no morals. Despise the working class and fuck them thoroughly every chance you have to show the pricks in Wall Street you are one of them. Be a sweet talker.

Curious what % of their 2.6k and 17k datasets were white males

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Post by tamade »

honkdaddy wrote: post #74
elzbardico wrote: post #63

Come from a rich, influential family. Be white. Be male. Be ruthless. Come from an Ivy League institution. If you have trouble being accepted into it, remember that if George bush could get into Yale, every other prick like you have a chance too. Have no morals. Despise the working class and fuck them thoroughly every chance you have to show the pricks in Wall Street you are one of them. Be a sweet talker.

The CEOs of Google and Apple, two of the most powerful companies in the world, have backgrounds entirely diametric to your advice.

2 out of 17k? that's reassuring!

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Post by nojito »

ickelbawd wrote: post #71
nojito wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t need to study non-ceos if you are trying to understand what a ceo is.

That’s not true. If you only look at CEOs you won’t be able to tell which behaviors are unique to CEOs and which are not. If you don’t eliminate these potentially universal traits and behaviors you’re setting yourself up to be be wrong due to biased data. More generally: how can you possibly understand what something is without understanding also what it is not?

It doesn’t matter. You’re trying to solve the problem of what makes a CEO. Because no one is a born a CEO.

The idea that you need to study 2B people to get at that is absolutely nonsense.

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Post by anyfactor »

jstummbillig wrote: post #7
onion2k wrote: post #4

Something that has always surprised me a bit is how many developers want to run their own large companies. Wanting to run a small company is largely about personal freedom that comes for not having a boss, but wanting to be the head of a large business is a whole different ballgame. It's a role that encompasses strategy, leadership, and management - 3 things that can only really be done by talking to people and under…

> Something that has always surprised me a bit is how many developers want to run their own large companies. I am surprised at how few of them do, considering how low the barriers of entry to company making in tech are (compared to other industries with heavy requirements in space, equipment, expertise and regulations) So I am also surprised at your experience. Most devs I know just wanna code.

I don't believe there is anyone out there who just likes to sell. It is an incredibly volatile way to make a consistent living. Specially asking them to believe that only you believe in.

We all know that developer who wanted to start their own startup/product but felt into hard times and so to keep the lights running they started to do consultancy/freelancing on the side. Then consultancy became their main thing and the startup was sent to the back burner or they just quit the venture entirely.

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