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Post by mishafb » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:25 AM UTC

rejectfinite wrote: post #133

stonecharioteer wrote: post #63

I cannot conceive how Mace became defacto development devices. They're always heating up, their implementation of POSIX is sketchy at best, their peripheral support is horrendous in the name of aesthetics, and the keyboard is atrocious. This is not to say that there are better alternatives. I have a Dell laptop running Manjaro, which is the second worst laptop experience I've had by far (the first was my 2019 Intel M…

>And recently I've discovered how horrible my network is at home and I doubt I can build a desktop unless I route ethernet wires through the walls. (Can't do that). There are PCIe wifi cards or USB wifi adapters for desktops... If you are building a new desktop there is even motherboards with wifi built in Quick search on your fav search engine https://lifehacker.com/how-can-i-add-wi-fi-to-a-desktop-pc-1... You dont…

Many realtek wifi adapters cause issues on Linux, and require buggy kernel modules. You should do some research before getting a wifi adapter. I just repurposed a wifi extender to be a wireless "bridge" from wifi to ethernet.

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Post by temp » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:29 AM UTC

vaughan wrote: post #74

colordrops wrote: post #7

I tried this and it doesn't work. Turns out my MacBook was throttling to 30% due to overheating. This happens more frequently if you drive the GPU with an external monitor. Unfortunately the OS does nothing to notify you of overheating and throttling, which is an insanely stupid oversight by apple. I only found out because I noticed that the computer ran fine while running the AC, so I installed an app through Brew c…

> root cause There is a bug for 5500M GPU that causes 18W sustained power draw with one external monitor. It should normally be 5W or so. The throttling is due to your VRM chips overheating. There is no temp sensor for this exposed to the user. The VRM chips have no cooling. The high GPU watt draw pushes the temps of the VRMs above their thermal limits with no cooling. The solution is to put thermal pads on your VRMs…

>and the 5500M bug is fixed in Monterey

Hm, I still seem to get the same behavior (using the very latest Monterey beta)

I'm using the 2019 MBP 16 w/ the 5500M GPU

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Post by extrememacaroni » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:30 AM UTC

maleldil wrote: post #13

Is this the 'high quality' Apple fan boys like to talk about?

are you writing that from your laptop that loses warranty if placed in a bag?

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Post by joconde » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:32 AM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #60

the_pwner224 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately this is a very common problem with basically all modern high-end laptops that have a macbook-like form factor (e.g. not bulky gaming laptops with lots of cooling & ventilation). It's just not physically possible to make a machine that combines high end power hungry hardware, adequate cooling for that hardware, and a compact form factor. It's very sad that this is such a widespread problem and that there…

>> a machine that combines high end power hungry hardware, adequate cooling for that hardware, and a compact form factor. There is. You don't need to keep that hardware running 24/7. That is a problem in the OS and associated software. Apple could disable all these monitoring daemons and accept the tiny delays in starting various things, accept some fan noise, accept a mic that isn't tuned to a room, accept that the…

The MBA's sleep mode is very inexpensive in battery life compared to the advantages. Maybe you don't open your laptop 50 times in a day, but I do, and it's very practical to be able to just pop into a meeting, take the laptop out, and start typing immediately.

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Post by sub7 » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:37 AM UTC

OSX has been shit for a while, they've been focused on iOS and emulation on the new hardware. the kernel_task kext is probably the worst offender.

Think Windows is better at this point, at least you can disable the garbage there.

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Post by go_prodev » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:37 AM UTC

the_pwner224 wrote: post #18

colordrops wrote: post #7

I tried this and it doesn't work. Turns out my MacBook was throttling to 30% due to overheating. This happens more frequently if you drive the GPU with an external monitor. Unfortunately the OS does nothing to notify you of overheating and throttling, which is an insanely stupid oversight by apple. I only found out because I noticed that the computer ran fine while running the AC, so I installed an app through Brew c…

Unfortunately this is a very common problem with basically all modern high-end laptops that have a macbook-like form factor (e.g. not bulky gaming laptops with lots of cooling & ventilation). It's just not physically possible to make a machine that combines high end power hungry hardware, adequate cooling for that hardware, and a compact form factor. It's very sad that this is such a widespread problem and that there…

>Or just buy a gaming laptop...

I was considering these for work, but most reasonably priced options have a poor display. I think there's a gap in the market for gaming performance with a decent display.

I ended up going with a 4k x1 carbon and been pretty happy so far

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Post by breakfastduck » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:39 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #157

hammyhavoc wrote: post #146

Alternative: try not buying Apple next time.

Not a solution for people who are sensitive to social status.

Oh give over.

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Post by BoorishBears » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:41 AM UTC

azalemeth wrote: post #145

BoorishBears wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this comment became outdated with the M1. Nothing from VMs to cross-compiling large toolchains has caused throttling in a fanless laptop. And that's while driving a 6k monitor and charging at full wattage.

A question about the M1: can you actually run an x86 VM under Rosetta? A large part of my job involves driving VMs for expensive hardware loaded with dev tools. I thought the answer was "no", which has put me off getting an M1, but just wanted to check.

Still no, I remote into a Windows box for the one tool I need that's Windows-only (BMW's ISTA)

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Post by BoorishBears » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:43 AM UTC

rejectfinite wrote: post #143

BoorishBears wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this comment became outdated with the M1. Nothing from VMs to cross-compiling large toolchains has caused throttling in a fanless laptop. And that's while driving a 6k monitor and charging at full wattage.

That is all nice sure, but cant use more than 1 monitor though...

Yeah, I ended up going with the XDR in part because it was the most screen real estate I could get without sacrificing DPI

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Post by DonHopkins » Sun, Oct 03, 2021, 11:44 AM UTC

zapataband1 wrote: post #59

SavantIdiot wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I think they're referring to the pre-installed ads on the start menu. Oh wait, that's Microsoft. Or maybe it is the utter failure of a control panel (Bluetooth, ACPI, Audio) that is still a crash-fest with Focal Fossa. Let's face it, everything with a GUI now sucks. Hard.

Yeah maybe it will finally be the year of the linux desktop...

Linux is only free if your time is worthless. ;)