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Paying a few hundred $ for a phone that lasts for just a couple of years never made sense in the first place. The amount of e-waste generated is insane, 'right to repair' and 'responsible use of capital and resources' go hand in hand.

Phones could easily last a decade.

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#43

Paying a few hundred $ for a phone that lasts for just a couple of years never made sense in the first place. The amount of e-waste generated is insane, 'right to repair' and 'responsible use of capital and resources' go hand in hand. Phones could easily last a decade.

An iphone can perfectly last six years.

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post #43

Paying a few hundred $ for a phone that lasts for just a couple of years never made sense in the first place. The amount of e-waste generated is insane, 'right to repair' and 'responsible use of capital and resources' go hand in hand. Phones could easily last a decade.

An iphone can perfectly last six years.

Not without repairs.

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An iphone can perfectly last six years.

Not without repairs.

You can have it repaired using fake parts or parts salvaged from broken iPhones. If it breaks, that is.

If the phone doesn't break during the two year warranty period, I've found that it's unlikely to break later on. (you have to treat it well, of course...)

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#46
I'm a bit torn about this. I think a good compromise is for Apple to offer selling "genuine parts" to anyone who practically wants it; and maybe, allow changing parts once the main owner release control.

Apple's devices are quite expensive. iCloud locking have made them worth less in the black-market, but the components are still worth something. This will make Apple's devices worth next to nothing in the black market and as a consequence less of a risk of being a target of petty theft.

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#47
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not without repairs.

You can have it repaired using fake parts or parts salvaged from broken iPhones. If it breaks, that is. If the phone doesn't break during the two year warranty period, I've found that it's unlikely to break later on. (you have to treat it well, of course...)

'fake' parts aren't 'fake' they are just made by someone else than the OEM. Salvaged parts do not count because for every phone you can fix there is one that you can't. The only proper way is to mandate that phone manufacturers supply original parts to those that need them, but because they'd rather sell you a new phone they don't.

One important reason why you want that original part and not a salvaged or non-OEM one for the battery is safety, this is a device that you carry on your person and the batteries carry a lot of punch. But the car industry has shown the way here, I can buy OEM brake discs and pads for my vehicle, I can also buy them from brand name non-OEM suppliers aka the 'aftermarket'. A similar solution would work well for phones, as would some minor design changes to facilitate repair rather than the opposite: design changes that make it harder to repair a device.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have it repaired using fake parts or parts salvaged from broken iPhones. If it breaks, that is. If the phone doesn't break during the two year warranty period, I've found that it's unlikely to break later on. (you have to treat it well, of course...)

'fake' parts aren't 'fake' they are just made by someone else than the OEM. Salvaged parts do not count because for every phone you can fix there is one that you can't. The only proper way is to mandate that phone manufacturers supply original parts to those that need them, but because they'd rather sell you a new phone they don't. One important reason why you want that original part and not a salvaged or non-OEM one…

I call them fake because they are always of a lower quality, and on top of that sellers pretend that they are selling you an original part (check eBay, AliExpress...).

I see your point, but I don't like the idea of forcing companies to sell you things they don't want to.

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Meh, people will not get tired of this it seems. What did the eternal repeating of this ever net you? A tentative promise that they will support the right to repair movement, one they are not obligated to fulfill, and of course it’s always in the future. That’s the best you could hope for with such naive activism. Anecdotal evidence: out of 20+ people with iPhones I know, only one ever had to send it for repairs. In…

Was this sent to Apple? No, it was posted to a public forum. This isn't about begging Apple to change, it's about informing people that Apple should change. The more people care about this, the more pressure it puts on both Apple and legislators to make this happen. We've seen it happen with car parts years ago. Of course Apple doesn't care about what people say. They care about how much money people give them and ho…

Yeah, that's the legend I keep hearing about my entire life and still haven't seen it happen even once.

People being "informed" does not nullify the fact there's literally almost zero choice nowadays. Not like Samsung or many others are easy to repair either...

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I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…

Except Apple also disables functionality if you replace the part with another genuine part from another iPhone. The only excuse is money, money, money.

There is no way to verify the screen is genuine in a way that could not be copied. The current way works because there is nothing that can be copied. The main board asks for a serial number and only it knows what the correct one is. No 3rd party can fake that without tailoring it to the specific phone.

It’s a real shitty situation but it’s a little more complex.

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