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Tinfoil hat: they knew the M1 macs would be a big draw and got intentionally soft on optimizing 2019 intel models.

Well they lost me. I ordered a Thinkpad through IT and am moving to Linux for my main after multiple presentations in front of hundreds of people that went south due to throttling. I'm not gonna get fired due to apple incompetence (or greed if you are wearing the tinfoil hat).

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I also recently discovered that something like 12% of CPU on my 2020 macbook air is used whenever I'm in a room with anything greater than perfect silence, by 'coreaudiod', because it apparently is constantly listening to the microphone built in near the keyboard and spending cpu cycles trying to filter out background noise. Apparently running the signal desktop app in the background is enough to keep coreaudiod cons…

The 2020 M1 version or previous Intel iteration (or perhaps there's no difference)?

I have Signal open on my M1 MacBook Air, and coreaudiod is using 0.0 CPU. The app itself uses anything between 1.5 and 8% CPU just for being open though, mostly the renderer process. That's true even if the window is minimised or hidden.

With Slack open, coreaudiod also sits most of the time at 0%. Animations, scrolling and generally just using the app can make it go up to 30-50% for a few seconds, between the GPU and the renderer processes.

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I cannot conceive how Mace became defacto development devices. They're always heating up, their implementation of POSIX is sketchy at best, their peripheral support is horrendous in the name of aesthetics, and the keyboard is atrocious.

This is not to say that there are better alternatives. I have a Dell laptop running Manjaro, which is the second worst laptop experience I've had by far (the first was my 2019 Intel Macbook Pro). I ordered a ThinkPad P15 AMD Ryzen 7, which hasn't shipped yet (its been 2 months).

And recently I've discovered how horrible my network is at home and I doubt I can build a desktop unless I route ethernet wires through the walls. (Can't do that).

I wish there was a better solution for a Linux laptop which was sturdy, worked well (sleep, hibernate, wake from lock, bluetooth, wifi), and had a good screen and a lot of external ports.

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Even "gaming" laptops have come a decent ways in size/form factor. I picked up a Zephyrus G15 a bit ago and it's pretty portable while having the ability to sink a good amount of wattage.

yeah I just checked and the modern version of my 17 inch laptop monster, which is about 8.1 pounds, is down to 5.95 pounds in a 17 inch version with an intel 11800 something mobile CPU, and geforce 3070 in it. Probably still has a huge external power brick.

I have a 13" M1 MBA and a 16" Legion gaming laptop. They're both good computers for their own purposes but the 230 watt power supply for the Legion is almost as heavy as the MBA (2.2 vs 2.8 pounds). Carrying the computer and the charger together my Lenovo is more than 3x heavier than the MBA.

Gaming laptops are just more-portable desktops to me. I would slip the M1 in a backpack without a second thought. It can even share a charger with my phone. Bringing a gaming laptop anywhere would need to be well justified.

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PSA, if you're doing investigations like this: there's two important parts to "proving" your hypothesis. One is you look at the experimental results and then ensure that matches your hypothesis, which is what this answer does here. The second is that you remove confounding variables and actually figure out what the real cause is. For an analysis like this, I find it quite disappointing that nobody actually went back…

This has been a known (albeit apparently not well known) issue/solution since the first USB-C macs were introduced. The cause is the placement of internals and sensors and their proximity to the ports on each side.

You can “prove” (demonstrate) it without opening the case by taking a stock MBP, putting it under medium load that’s enough to generate heat without other factors, then compare fan speed and performance with power on each side. They’re noticeably different without changing any other factor.

And since the case itself is part of the thermal management design, you can feel relatively comparable heat generated by charging on both sides at the edge of the case above the keyboard. Obviously that’s not scientific, but it’s a pretty good clue there’s something else happening. Luckily, this is a known phenomenon and people have already done the legwork you’re asking for.

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I also recently discovered that something like 12% of CPU on my 2020 macbook air is used whenever I'm in a room with anything greater than perfect silence, by 'coreaudiod', because it apparently is constantly listening to the microphone built in near the keyboard and spending cpu cycles trying to filter out background noise. Apparently running the signal desktop app in the background is enough to keep coreaudiod cons…

> If you really want to see slack waste CPU and battery, leave a channel open that somebody has pasted a high FPS animated GIF into This is basically an attack especially if you post a couple of them. My god.

I basically avoid large channels at work because it just absolutely bogs down my machine.

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post #15

Tinfoil hat: they knew the M1 macs would be a big draw and got intentionally soft on optimizing 2019 intel models.

2019 was the year they released the 16” MBP and redesigned the keyboard to be a slimmer version of the pre-butterfly design. That’s a lot of industrial design to put into phoning it in.

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I also recently discovered that something like 12% of CPU on my 2020 macbook air is used whenever I'm in a room with anything greater than perfect silence, by 'coreaudiod', because it apparently is constantly listening to the microphone built in near the keyboard and spending cpu cycles trying to filter out background noise. Apparently running the signal desktop app in the background is enough to keep coreaudiod cons…

Thought only my cheapo Dell does this. DSP should’ve been offloaded to dedicated audio hardware. Doing it in software is just lazy.

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you really want to see slack waste CPU and battery, leave a channel open that somebody has pasted a high FPS animated GIF into This is basically an attack especially if you post a couple of them. My god.

I basically avoid large channels at work because it just absolutely bogs down my machine.

Just turning off animations in settings would help I guess
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