iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by ksidn » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 11:36 AM UTC

kirb wrote: post #7

ksidn wrote: post #6

Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.

Your own habits aren’t everyone’s habits. Not everyone is on a two-year upgrade cycle, especially when the iPhones are worth near or above $1000 now. Many people who own a smartphone only have it at all thanks to the affordable prices of refurbished (i.e. repaired) units on the second-hand market. It’s silly to say repair is unimportant when you consider how many tons of waste this creates - and how little is actuall…

People are voting with their wallets. They are voting they don't care.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 11:39 AM UTC

kirb wrote: post #7

ksidn wrote: post #6

Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.

Your own habits aren’t everyone’s habits. Not everyone is on a two-year upgrade cycle, especially when the iPhones are worth near or above $1000 now. Many people who own a smartphone only have it at all thanks to the affordable prices of refurbished (i.e. repaired) units on the second-hand market. It’s silly to say repair is unimportant when you consider how many tons of waste this creates - and how little is actuall…

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Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by 0x000000001 » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 11:58 AM UTC

ksidn wrote: post #6

Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.

My phone is an appliance and I'm perfectly fine with that. I dread owning another computer I have the responsibility of maintaining. We are drowning in "computers" these days.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by kirb » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 12:54 PM UTC

ksidn wrote: post #11

kirb wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your own habits aren’t everyone’s habits. Not everyone is on a two-year upgrade cycle, especially when the iPhones are worth near or above $1000 now. Many people who own a smartphone only have it at all thanks to the affordable prices of refurbished (i.e. repaired) units on the second-hand market. It’s silly to say repair is unimportant when you consider how many tons of waste this creates - and how little is actuall…

People are voting with their wallets. They are voting they don't care.

Not caring at time of purchase doesn’t mean they don’t grumble and curse the brand later on after an experience where the phone breaks and the options are limited to a costly manufacturer repair. I consider myself an iPhone person, my current phone is an iPhone 12 Pro Max so I paid a pretty penny to Apple for it, it’s also insured, but it still doesn’t mean I won’t condemn Apple for making dubious decisions that hurt repair options. Not all that different from getting your car repaired at a mechanic rather than the dealer.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by StringyBob » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 1:16 PM UTC

So - if I followed that correctly the parts you can’t change are the front-camera assembly that includes faceID sensor, and the screen that includes the touch panel (that you use to enter passwords and PINs).

I would assume Apple’s justification is that this is to meet security requirements, particularly given a phone is now commonly used for contactless payments.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by uuddlrlr » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 1:36 PM UTC

StringyBob wrote: post #15

So - if I followed that correctly the parts you can’t change are the front-camera assembly that includes faceID sensor, and the screen that includes the touch panel (that you use to enter passwords and PINs). I would assume Apple’s justification is that this is to meet security requirements, particularly given a phone is now commonly used for contactless payments.

iPhones since the iPhone X have the same repair requirement, however the screen and FaceID are separate so you can continue to use the original.

There's nothing special about the touch panels, the FaceID component is a TPM of sorts.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by antiterra » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 2:03 PM UTC

0x000000001 wrote: post #13

ksidn wrote: post #6

Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.

My phone is an appliance and I'm perfectly fine with that. I dread owning another computer I have the responsibility of maintaining. We are drowning in "computers" these days.

Every appliance in my home is significantly easier to repair/service than my iPhone 12.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by nyx-aiur » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 2:10 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #9

Meh, people will not get tired of this it seems. What did the eternal repeating of this ever net you? A tentative promise that they will support the right to repair movement, one they are not obligated to fulfill, and of course it’s always in the future. That’s the best you could hope for with such naive activism. Anecdotal evidence: out of 20+ people with iPhones I know, only one ever had to send it for repairs. In…

If you have a blog with other hot takes I would love to read them at the loo.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by bitwize » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 2:14 PM UTC

0x000000001 wrote: post #13

ksidn wrote: post #6

Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.

My phone is an appliance and I'm perfectly fine with that. I dread owning another computer I have the responsibility of maintaining. We are drowning in "computers" these days.

Toasters and dishwashers can be fixed. Your phone is a service.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by gbraad » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 2:24 PM UTC

StringyBob wrote: post #15

So - if I followed that correctly the parts you can’t change are the front-camera assembly that includes faceID sensor, and the screen that includes the touch panel (that you use to enter passwords and PINs). I would assume Apple’s justification is that this is to meet security requirements, particularly given a phone is now commonly used for contactless payments.

And the battery as it will report not genuine.