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The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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> What will it take for this advertising bubble to pop? Browsers shipping with uBlock Origin included.

90%+ of relevant traffic is mobile 95%+ of mobile traffic is native Don’t delude yourself

I'm sure 99% of Apple users would be happy with a popup on first use of Safari that asked "would you like to block adverts?". It would be no skin off Apple's nose.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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> What will it take for this advertising bubble to pop? Browsers shipping with uBlock Origin included.

90%+ of relevant traffic is mobile 95%+ of mobile traffic is native Don’t delude yourself

Yeah, for now. I'm doing my part to change that. People love the fact uBlock Origin blocks the idiotic YouTube ads. There's always Brave if for some reason they can't stand Firefox.

And hey, if Apple will crack down on Facebook's espionage over privacy concerns, who says they won't do the same to these advertisers and their abusive surveillance capitalism? Maybe they'll realize that advertising is pure noise nobody cares about and block all ads in order to improve usability. Maybe one day they'll get pissed they aren't getting their fair 30% share of advertiser revenue and block them out of spite. Maybe they'll wake up one day and simply decide to kill the ads industry. Now that's a delusion worth having.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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I have had the thought that there is something wrong, that I can access nearly any song of my choice on YouTube, with the small penalty of skipping an advert after 5 seconds.

Many of the adverts aren't even for products I'm interested in. They're either get-rich-quick schemes, or repeat-ad-nauseum ads for software like Grammerly, which I will never use.

If Google has some sort of complex picture about me, by invading my privacy, then they're certainly not using it to sell me anything I am interested in.

I guess if Google are funalling cash from advertisers to the record companies, then it will continue. But I have to wonder what would happen if advertisers actually look at how effective their advertisements are.

I feel I'm getting a good deal out of this arrangement.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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One thing I don't get: if in the entire industry $273bn were spent on ads in a year, how come that one company which derives most of its revenue from ads, such as Alphabet has a market cap several times larger?

Earning 273 billion per year is much more valuable than owning 273 billion.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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To be fair, the point of the article is that ROAS is not a very good metric, and while most of the article is wrong in that it effectively calls all advertising worthless as a result, it's not wrong about that one methodological point. What matters is incremental ROAS - not the conversions following exposure, but rather the conversions that would not have happened but for the exposure. For small companies that have n…

The point you're talking about ROAS/incremental ROAS is quite moot actually. Every online ad tracks the user from the moment they click the ad to whatever events they make (e.g. add to cart, purchase, etc). So the measured ROAS is exactly for the users who'd come via the ad and not any others. I don't want to be offending but this is honestly a very basic point, of course one would only measure the Return On Ad Spend…

You are not understanding the point. You cannot actually measure incremental ROAS with basic statistics and easy Google/FB tools, because you would need to know how much they would have spent WITHOUT being exposed to the ads.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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The article explains why eBay shouldn't advertise against the term "eBay", all very logical. ... Until a competitor starts advertising against the the term "eBay". At which point, online advertising becomes protection money.

Click-through rates will be very low. In most countries you cannot impersonate another company, so they cannot call themselves „eBay“ in the ad copy.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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post #67

The article explains why eBay shouldn't advertise against the term "eBay", all very logical. ... Until a competitor starts advertising against the the term "eBay". At which point, online advertising becomes protection money.

A relatively friendly jab: at one point if you search "emacs" you could see an ad along the lines of (forgot the exact wording):

escape meta alt ctrl shift AAARGGHHHH.... try VIM.

Re: The new dot com bubble is online advertising (2019)

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post #67

The article explains why eBay shouldn't advertise against the term "eBay", all very logical. ... Until a competitor starts advertising against the the term "eBay". At which point, online advertising becomes protection money.

Click-through rates will be very low. In most countries you cannot impersonate another company, so they cannot call themselves „eBay“ in the ad copy.

Did anything change there? I remember Basecamp’s Jason Fried complaining about it[0] but I wasn’t aware of any policy changes that prevent someone from bidding on their competitor’s names and essentially placing their brand ahead of yours when searching for your brand name…

[0] https://fortune.com/2019/09/04/google-trolled-search-ads/

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