'Google' is most searched word on Bing • Hacker News Board

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by burkaman » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:27 PM UTC

nolok wrote: post #92

0xTJ wrote: post #71

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As far as I can tell, it already does this, and it's my most hated "feature". The delay while it does the search, combined with everything shuffling around at the end of that delay is terrible for me. Personally, if I want to use the web, I'll open a browser. That's not the role I have for my OS, I don't want. And if it does have that capability, providing an alternate search engine should be doable, and it should re…

It doesn't do this, because it's not smart and treat everything the same way. You first need to figure out what kind of content the user is talking about, and then go around that. Microsoft system doesn't care if you're typing calc.exe or John Smith or 8x9 it will do the crappy web search, crappy app search, crappy store search, crappy calendar search, and vomit a mix of useless results in your face. That's what make…

It does do this, if I put 8*9 in the start menu a little embedded calculator comes up that says 72. It does also prompt me to "see web results" for 8*9 though.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by s0rce » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:30 PM UTC

bombcar wrote: post #94

bogwog wrote: post #86

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Why not switch to linux? Even if you can’t use an Office 365 alternative, there’s a browser version.

Browser office blows compared to desktop.

Linux teams also sucks

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by moate » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:44 PM UTC

ezekg wrote: post #105

krapp wrote: post #98

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>People just type "google" in the address bar when they want to go to a search engine. Is this still common? Modern browsers will give an option to run a search directly from the URL bar, or automatically search anything not a URL... I haven't actually had to "go to a search engine" to search in a long time.

Non-technical people do weird things.

"Oh my God, Jerry? When you check your email, you go to AltaVista and type 'please go to yahoo.com'?"-Tom Haverford.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by kroltan » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:50 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #98

wodenokoto wrote: post #79

Isn't it also the most searched-for term on Google? People just type "google" in the address bar when they want to go to a search engine.

>People just type "google" in the address bar when they want to go to a search engine. Is this still common? Modern browsers will give an option to run a search directly from the URL bar, or automatically search anything not a URL... I haven't actually had to "go to a search engine" to search in a long time.

Yes, very common. Not something us techies do too much, but remember, we're approaching the point where the majority of the world's population uses some sort of computer, while there are people alive in computer-available regions that did not have one for the majority of their lives, or use them only "transactionally".

Just eyeballing these two facts should not surprise you that a large fraction (if not the majority) of people use computers in archaic or inefficient ways.

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The HN audience more or less devotes a big chunk of their brain-space (however you define it) and time to operating or being aware of computers, so naturally we have an interest in making that use efficient. But a lot of people only use computers socially (where the speed of human interactions is much slower than any inefficient web-searching) or for specific operations (buying stuff online, banking, check the weather, entertainment, etc) where any kind of computer use is still faster than, for example going to an ATM to check your balance.

(By computer I mean any general-purpose informatics, including phones)

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by sysihyk » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:50 PM UTC

This sounds like IT Crowd joke.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by oars » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

citboin wrote: post #107

optimalsolver wrote: post #101

And "Reddit" is probably added to most searches on Google.

Seriously, Reddit should integrate googles search bar. Reddit’s default search results SUCK 100% of the time.

I 100% agree with you.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by rchaud » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

airstrike wrote: post #108

ezekg wrote: post #105

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Non-technical people do weird things.

Early into my career I had a corporate job and virtually all of my coworkers would follow the same approach: 1. type 'google' into the address bar 2. type the name of a major website into the search bar, e.g. 'cnn' 3. click on the cnn link at the top of the search results I always asked them why they wouldn't simply type cnn.com in the address bar, but the only response I got was a confused look People simply don't u…

Older users have probably been burned by mistyping the URL and ending up on a spam site that owns a proximal address like "googl.co". I myself remember having it happen back in the day.

These days big companies with scammable audiences like FB and Google buy up any domain name that could reasonably be associated with them.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by nolok » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

burkaman wrote: post #111

nolok wrote: post #92

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It doesn't do this, because it's not smart and treat everything the same way. You first need to figure out what kind of content the user is talking about, and then go around that. Microsoft system doesn't care if you're typing calc.exe or John Smith or 8x9 it will do the crappy web search, crappy app search, crappy store search, crappy calendar search, and vomit a mix of useless results in your face. That's what make…

It does do this, if I put 8*9 in the start menu a little embedded calculator comes up that says 72. It does also prompt me to "see web results" for 8*9 though.

It doesn't, at least not in the way it should. It's not windows figuring it out and giving you a specific result, it's just a webview into Bing, and bing that show the results that way. That's why just under the calculator you have a link to a streetwear clothes brand.

You might think "so what, it does work" but 99% of the issues in the start search are due to this offloading to bing that is not aware of your local computer and data.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by baobabKoodaa » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:55 PM UTC

airstrike wrote: post #108

ezekg wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-technical people do weird things.

Early into my career I had a corporate job and virtually all of my coworkers would follow the same approach: 1. type 'google' into the address bar 2. type the name of a major website into the search bar, e.g. 'cnn' 3. click on the cnn link at the top of the search results I always asked them why they wouldn't simply type cnn.com in the address bar, but the only response I got was a confused look People simply don't u…

I've stopped manually typing urls put of fear of typosquatting. If you don't have something bookmarked, it's safer to google for the website and click the first non-ad result.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by oars » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 1:57 PM UTC

pverghese wrote: post #45

makerofthings wrote: post #44

Reading the article, the worrying question that jumps out at me is how do google know what the top search on Bing is?

Searches coming from domain

Could you elaborate on this? Is there a mechanism (e.g. HTTP header) which tells Google this when someone types in "Google" in Bing and presses enter?

What if they don't click on the google.com search result?