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Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by nolok »

rbobby wrote: post #72
cblconfederate wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the same token we shouldn't need all that crap in omnibox either. It is all about the quality of information and decluttering

I quite like that the omni box will do math and unit conversions. So handy, so simple.

I think parent point was that if it was well done we would like it in the start menu, but if it was only 99% ok or below we would hate it.

Omnibox sucked until it reached a point where it didn't.

But microsoft is so focused on competing to google's product that they fail to realize they don't even need to go there.

With that said, we're talking about a company who can't even search properly for the installed app given the infinite resource of a modern computer and an app list below a hundred, so I don't want them to make the search menu/search any more of a disaster.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by nolok »

0xTJ wrote: post #71
cblconfederate wrote: post #34

Dear Microsoft, You fools, you own a gate to the internet. When i search 8*9 in the start menu, show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9". Make the menu auto-complete with the titles of the first 5 web results instead of random ads. Make it work well as an actually useful extension of search. Forget about edge and bing.com, you will care about the brand name later. (You can th…

As far as I can tell, it already does this, and it's my most hated "feature". The delay while it does the search, combined with everything shuffling around at the end of that delay is terrible for me. Personally, if I want to use the web, I'll open a browser. That's not the role I have for my OS, I don't want. And if it does have that capability, providing an alternate search engine should be doable, and it should re…

It doesn't do this, because it's not smart and treat everything the same way. You first need to figure out what kind of content the user is talking about, and then go around that.

Microsoft system doesn't care if you're typing calc.exe or John Smith or 8x9 it will do the crappy web search, crappy app search, crappy store search, crappy calendar search, and vomit a mix of useless results in your face.

That's what makes it "hard" to do it right, and frankly something that microsoft just doesn't have in their dna (if they did, their start menu search wouldn't be so horrible). I think an OS that did it right would be improved, and I hope to hell and back that microsoft won't try it because they will never succeed at that.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by bogwog »

dspillett wrote: post #55

I'm sure most of it isn't people searching for google though, it is people using the default search box in Edge or where-ever else Bing is the default search provider as if it is a smart address box, hammering in “google” without the .com (or other tld) and getting what they want as the first answer. I bet “facebook” is a very popular search term too for the same reason.

Whenever I end up on Bing, I go out of my way to search for “Google” (and click the link) before closing it. If I also happen to be in Edge (because microsoft ignored/changed the defaults again), then I also make sure to search for “Chrome”.

It’s petty and childish, but it’s my way of coping with the fact that I have no power when I’m using Windows. And I don’t even use Google or Chrome.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by bombcar »

bogwog wrote: post #86
smhenderson wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finally got so fed up with Edge quietly changing my preferences back to their defaults I decided to completely stop using it. I have an MS account, Office 365 for work, etc. I thought, this is great, I'll continue using Firefox for personal and Edge for work, it integrates with my company account, that's neat. But no, they can't leave well enough alone and just let me use my machine the way I want to. I don't want…

Why not switch to linux? Even if you can’t use an Office 365 alternative, there’s a browser version.

Browser office blows compared to desktop.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by Jaruzel »

MomoXenosaga wrote: post #59
Jaruzel wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excuse me?! It is disingenuous to infer that a complete demographic doesn't know about how the Internet works. For some late-age Boomers, I would agree that a large percentage of them would do this, but Gen-Xers are in their 40s and 50s, and most of them have literally grown up surrounded by technology.

Old people arent idiots they can learn. My 66 year old mom is cashless, does her banking in an app and orders groceries online.

Late-age boomers are in their mid-70s, not mid-60s.

Edit: Did my grandparent comment get voted down because people don't know what 'disingenuous' means?

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by moogly »

reedf1 wrote: post #46
cblconfederate wrote: post #34

Dear Microsoft, You fools, you own a gate to the internet. When i search 8*9 in the start menu, show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9". Make the menu auto-complete with the titles of the first 5 web results instead of random ads. Make it work well as an actually useful extension of search. Forget about edge and bing.com, you will care about the brand name later. (You can th…

>show me the result of the multiplication instead of a link to "search web for 8*9" As far as I can tell - it already does this. Now I hate how it works and it looks bad, but it does show web search results for what I type in the start menu. And I will actually push back a bit on the start menu because I hate that the start menu searches the web. I want it to search my computer, I have a browser for web searches.

You can disable it with a registry variable or through an app like Winaero Tweaker.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by nolok »

And I'm willing to bet "chrome" or "google chrome" is also near the top, or at least a significant number, typed by users in edge/bing right after install.

I'm not the biggest fan of Chrome domination for the future of the web, BUT I found microsoft insistances on trying to force edge/bing down my throat really pushing me away from trying them. If they do that when they're behind, how am I supposed to think they will be any better if they ever get back on top.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by krapp »

wodenokoto wrote: post #79

Isn't it also the most searched-for term on Google? People just type "google" in the address bar when they want to go to a search engine.

>People just type "google" in the address bar when they want to go to a search engine.

Is this still common? Modern browsers will give an option to run a search directly from the URL bar, or automatically search anything not a URL... I haven't actually had to "go to a search engine" to search in a long time.

Re: 'Google' is most searched word on Bing

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Post by Kaibeezy »

mrweasel wrote: post #63
Kaibeezy wrote: post #20

What’s the most commonly entered URL in Edge? The only one I’ve ever typed is google.com/chrome

Given that Edge is Chromium based, what exactly makes you pick Chrome over Edge?

Force of habit. Inertia. Familiarity. Bad aftertaste from IE.
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