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S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

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Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

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Everyone pays for their internet access, so why should Netflix (or anyone else) suddenly pay for mine? Netflix isn’t pushing data, I’m pulling it. If my ISP is losing money then I guess they better raise their prices, no?

No.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

#13
Let customers vote with their wallet then.

If I were the judge, I would ask Netflix to stream low bandwidth version of the content so it won't impact SK Broadband.

AND, tell BOTH parties that they must put announcement in their respective website, "SK Broadband provides you internet at a cost (as per their claim). To enjoy Full HD of this content, pay extra to SK Broadband".

See which party the customers will be angry to.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

#14
There are three major nationwide broadband services in SK: Korea Telecom (KT), LG Uplus and SK Broadband (SKBB, a subsidary of SK Telecom). Among them SKBB is considered the worst because both KT and LG U+ operate their own infrastructures due to their pre-privatization history but SKBB don't, so SKBB has to perpetually lease infra from them. It is therefore no surprise that SKBB (and also SKT) is one of the biggest forces against net neutrality in SK, given their service is especially weak and net neutrality will make it worse.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

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> Netflix said it will review SK Broadband's claim, and seek dialogue and explore ways in the meantime to work with SK Broadband to ensure customers are not affected. In other words, they will ship some Open Connect Appliance boxes to the ISP. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ And that’s nice for everyone. Some think it’s unfair that big players like Netflix can do so. But I think them doing that is far far better…

I just realized: By this same logic, end-users should be paid by advertisers for the bandwidth they were forced to consume for their ads.

I bet that wouldn't go over nearly as well as this.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

#16
post #4

Everyone pays for their internet access, so why should Netflix (or anyone else) suddenly pay for mine? Netflix isn’t pushing data, I’m pulling it. If my ISP is losing money then I guess they better raise their prices, no?

Hmm, I guess ISPs could just drop traffic if they can’t afford it, but maybe if you push a lot of data you could pay more to have the content actually delivered to end users.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

#18
Similarly, Australia had problems when Netflix was first becoming popular here, putting huge strains on the network and causing widespread congestion issues from 6 to 10 pm.

I wonder if we'll ever see a predictive home-caching system; if I watch the first three episodes of squid game in one night, it might be sensible to have my TV download the rest of the series overnight.

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

#19

Similarly, Australia had problems when Netflix was first becoming popular here, putting huge strains on the network and causing widespread congestion issues from 6 to 10 pm. I wonder if we'll ever see a predictive home-caching system; if I watch the first three episodes of squid game in one night, it might be sensible to have my TV download the rest of the series overnight.

And then you'd have storage issues instead of bandwidth!

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge from 'Squid Game'

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> Netflix said it will review SK Broadband's claim, and seek dialogue and explore ways in the meantime to work with SK Broadband to ensure customers are not affected. In other words, they will ship some Open Connect Appliance boxes to the ISP. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ And that’s nice for everyone. Some think it’s unfair that big players like Netflix can do so. But I think them doing that is far far better…

I just realized: By this same logic, end-users should be paid by advertisers for the bandwidth they were forced to consume for their ads. I bet that wouldn't go over nearly as well as this.

End users generally don't pay for consuming extra bandwidth, so the injury isn't obvious.

SMS spam, though, had a very clear injury when you were charged for the privilege of receiving a message.

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