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'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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I feel like the have Stardew Valley either tapped into this or caused some of this trend.

Stardew Valley disturbs me, because it makes farming and even gardening seem too easy. There's too little substance between planting and harvest; playing it feels like eating candy for dinner for a week.

It eventually felt like that, when I started trying to optimize things. But the first few hours it was very relaxing.

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I love my backyard garden (even though my Brussels Sprout experiment this year proved to be a huge waste of time). I also love the aesthetic that cottagecore is revitalizing. I love drinking at local wineries, buying stuff at my local farmer's market, brewing beer and swapping bottles with homebrew friends, etc... But holy shit am I repulsed by the influencer aspect that is growing with this "movement". Ways of Seein…

Interesting everyone in the Netherlands who has a back garden paves that shit over.

Guess what gardening takes time and effort and ain't nobody got time for that!

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> So many people feel they work too much and dream of just getting away to something simpler. I agree that this the popular sentiment, but I think work is a smaller part of it than we like to think. I think people are simply overwhelmed with the always-on, always-connected lifestyles that fill our every waking moment with outrage-bait headlines and more entertainment media than we could possibly ever consume. Anyone…

You're right that surviving on a homestead sounds very... unromantic to me. I planted a bunch of apple trees, berry bushes..etc, over a year ago. I fertilize and water, but somehow blight took it all. It seems like nature is constantly trying to fight you on everything.

Subsistence farming is no fun. There's a reason why people voluntarily moved to factory towns in the 19th century.

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It's not about the law, it's about what's enforced. Where I live you theoretically need to permit the typical stuff but the official unofficial policy is that they don't expect anyone who isn't a professional to pull permits.

Many pros don't even bother with permits for smaller jobs, like installing a generator (my neighbor's experience). One thing to consider is that most insurance companies will not cover a house if it had unpermitted/uninspected work on it that could even possibly be the cause.

>One thing to consider is that most insurance companies will not cover a house if it had unpermitted/uninspected work on it that could even possibly be the cause.

This usually (I'm sure someone somewhere has a cut rate policy that states otherwise) only matters if the unpermitted work was what causes the claim which basically just means responsibility is back on the owner. In practice this is mostly fine since people doing their own work for their own houses tend not to half-ass things.

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I grew up in a farming area, and my family had a 30'x30' garden. Farming is a lot of work. It's a job, not a hobby. Even the garden was a fair amount of work, but more importantly, it's a lot of veggies to eat after harvest. I had tomato sandwiches daily for months. Plus insects to control. Doable, but not glamorous like the "cottagecore" photos. If I did a serious garden again, I'd focus on becoming a skilled grower…

Yeah, in my country, people like to buy a "lifestyle block" when they've acquired enough capital and reached their mid 40s - 50s - usually a big house with say 10 acres of land or so. Not enough to run a financially viable headcount of stock. Maybe enough to run a midlife crisis horse for your spouse who desperately wanted a pony as a child but couldn't get one. Now you have a horse that's desperately lonely, and cos…

It gets worse.

Apple execs buy a plot of land just across Highway 280 and build a mansion there to get the farm "homestead tax break."

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Marie Antoinette and her friends would dress up as young shepherdess or milkmaids and wander around the hamlet pretending to be peasants, while still surrounded by the comforts of a royal lifestyle. A team of real farmers appointed by the Queen looked after the farm and the animals, and produced fruits and vegetables consumed at the royal table. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2019/11/hameau-de-la-reine-mar...

As someone who actually grew up in a village of 1000 people I find this nostalgia a typical product of the imagination of people who never actually tried living outside of the city, and are therefore free to imagine it as beautiful or horrible as they want without nuance getting in the way. As for myself I like to visit my family for even a week or two, but I sure don't miss living in a village.

Also, every year there are a few people who actually try to move to the village I am from. Most of them sell their house again within a few years because they don't understand that living in the countryside sucks if you're not trying to be part of the local community, and if you move in acting like you're better than the locals that's not going to happen.

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Many pros don't even bother with permits for smaller jobs, like installing a generator (my neighbor's experience). One thing to consider is that most insurance companies will not cover a house if it had unpermitted/uninspected work on it that could even possibly be the cause.

>One thing to consider is that most insurance companies will not cover a house if it had unpermitted/uninspected work on it that could even possibly be the cause. This usually (I'm sure someone somewhere has a cut rate policy that states otherwise) only matters if the unpermitted work was what causes the claim which basically just means responsibility is back on the owner. In practice this is mostly fine since people…

Not just if they identify it as the cause. It can also happen if the cause or location is undetermined. Like if you did some electrical work and they could determine that it was an electrical fire at the box but couldn't determine which circuit caused it. Even if you do the job perfectly, you could still unknowingly get a faulty material. Not to mention that even without an issue they can drop your policy due to risk associated with unpermitted work.

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I follow a youtube channel of a chap and his wife who left the city and relocated to a rural area to do sustainable farming with ducks and geese. It is interesting but it is very hard work to husband animals but they seem very happy. https://www.youtube.com/c/GoldShawFarm/videos

That's a hobby farm. They both still work full time day jobs. She's a nurse, he's in marketing (remote work). I guess that's what HN really wants-- having it both ways.

Most small farms require a second job to make ends meet, or at least one person who can provide benefits from a "normal" job. Even if it's more than just hobby level. I know quite a few people waking up at 4am to do farm chores and then going in to a fulltime day job.

Most states have legal definition to determine if you're a farmer, like if you make more than 30% of your money from farming.

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What does the -core suffix mean in this context? I get that it is a mix of words, like hardcore, nerdcore, etc.. but why? I figured that was reserved for fringe extreme genres. Does anybody have any info on this?

I don't consider myself an authority on this, but I take it to be a gentle bit of comedic irony, used to describe aesthetics that are generally the opposite what people associate with "hardcore," the best known earlier use of the suffix. Compare hardcore with, for example, prairiecore, cottagecore, dadcore, nerdcore. All of these terms describe an aesthetic that references the stereotyped essence of a way of life. Bu…

The aesthetics wiki needs a warning the same way tvtropes does, I can spend hours going down rabbit holes there.

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I am not thowing things. There are two primary forms of measuring GHG: -- A. Territorial GHG emission accounting B. (Absolute) GHG footprint accounting -- A. Measures GHG released with in the territorial borders. B. Measures upstream GHG released outside the territory but consumed within. -- Moving a coal plant across state lines doesn't reduce the GHG impact of a state, it merely removes the accounting from the stat…

I agree that including upstream GHG is important, but you've got to compare like with like - is there any evidence that upstream-included GHG emissions are higher for urban than for rural? What would the mechanism for that be - are urban people consuming more things (or more energy), are things for urban markets produced less efficiently than things for rural markets (why?), ...?

Concrete usage is sufficient to illustrate the mechanism.

- https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/25/concrete-the-...

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_conc...

- https://www.statista.com/statistics/273367/consumption-of-ce...

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