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NFT projects are just MLMs for tech elites

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Re: NFT projects are just MLMs for tech elites

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There’s a lot of confusion here about why NFTs are valuable if the buyer doesn’t get to own the image copyright. This should not feel mysterious - NFTs are just like baseball cards.

If you buy a Barry Bonds baseball card for $1,000, you don’t own the artistic rights to the image on the card. All you own is the card itself, which has negligible manufacturing cost. It would be trivial for any card company to produce a million functionally equivalent Barry Bonds cards.

When you buy a Barry Bonds baseball card, you hope that the card company won’t dump a million more on the market. You also hope that if another baseball card company springs up and prints their own Barry Bonds cards, people won’t be as interested in that brand of cards. Attention and scarcity drive value; the nuance is that other speculators must care about scarcity along the same dimension that you possess it (in this case: the brand of the baseball card company and the year the card was made). There are a hundred tokens functionally equivalent to Bitcoin, but none approach Bitcoin’s value - purely because Bitcoin sustains more consumer and media attention. This position is fairly stable because attention has strong positive feedback loops.

There has always been interest in speculative collectibles. A purely digital collectible solves a lot of practical problems related to exchange: you don’t have to wait a week to receive the item in the mail, you don’t have to worry about its condition because it does not degrade with time or use, there is minimal counterparty risk due to online escrow contracts, and counterfeits are harder to fake (along the relevant dimension of scarcity, which is the origin address).

People have been speculating on collectibles for thousands of years. Crypto just makes it easier to trade them back and forth.

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> minting a new beanie-baby-NFT takes less effort than making an actual beanie baby. I'll add onto this that the core technology has no way of verifying which beanie baby NFT is "valid" outside of traditional centralized mechanisms like IP law and large validators. You can duplicate NFTs that point to the same beanie-baby-NFT link, are totally indistinguishable, that don't have any artwork that you own, and nobody ca…

Is this really a meaningful thing? I mean, of course it is somewhat in terms of how things are viewed. But, theres no religious law that NFTs must be a pure blockchain thing. Possibly they're finding their niche, and that is to be a sort of intermediate, which uses traditional systems as the origin of verification/trust, but can then go forward on its own with no further verification. (Of course, your wallet keys cou…

Selling digital assets like that predates NFTs. NFTs are supposed to be special because of the stuff crypto adds not in spite of it.

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> nothing in the NFT itself betrays that it wasn't issued by the real Techno Viking This part is incorrect. Every token is signed can be verified against the content creator's public key. You can absolutely verify a "genuine" NFT.

You have to first know which public key is genuine.

Well blockchains aren't trying to solve the digital identity problem. Artists can share their public key however they like.

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There’s a lot of confusion here about why NFTs are valuable if the buyer doesn’t get to own the image copyright. This should not feel mysterious - NFTs are just like baseball cards. If you buy a Barry Bonds baseball card for $1,000, you don’t own the artistic rights to the image on the card. All you own is the card itself, which has negligible manufacturing cost. It would be trivial for any card company to produce a…

When you have a baseball card, the first sale doctrine means that you at least have the legal right to display and transfer that card. With NFTs, even that is not necessarily the case because displaying the content of the NFT is making a copy, and you may not have a license to do that.

Re: NFT projects are just MLMs for tech elites

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NFTs are a scam as old as markets themselves. Buy your own supply at any price, then sell to a sucker at a "discount".

Sprinkle around marketing bullshit about how all real world things will be NFTs one day, be really good at capturing imaginations and creating fantasy. More suckers get in.

They'll end the same way as similar scams too - founding teams had no skin in the game since they just paid themselves, pros will ride the wave and cash out in time, and suckers will be left without bids.

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You have to first know which public key is genuine.

Well blockchains aren't trying to solve the digital identity problem. Artists can share their public key however they like.

Then its left as an exercise for the user to actually verify the authenticity.

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post #317

NFTs are a scam as old as markets themselves. Buy your own supply at any price, then sell to a sucker at a "discount". Sprinkle around marketing bullshit about how all real world things will be NFTs one day, be really good at capturing imaginations and creating fantasy. More suckers get in. They'll end the same way as similar scams too - founding teams had no skin in the game since they just paid themselves, pros wil…

No. Regular market rules apply exactly like with fidget spinners.

Marketing and hype? Demand increases, sales go through the roof. Hype passed? No one is buying.

With NFT situation is 1:1.

Just like people that collect stamps pay x100-x1000 for many. Do they have value? No. Scam? No.

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How? Your Twitter profile picture is an image. What stops me from saving your profile and setting mine to the same thing? Are you suggesting Twitter validates that a Twitter account owns an NFT and shows a check/badge/whatever? I also don't think that works. Whatever rare NFT you have I can go make a visually identical NFT for and confirm that I own that NFT. I often think that I must be missing something about NFTs…

> Whatever rare NFT you have I can go make a visually identical NFT for and confirm that I own that NFT Can you sign that NFT with the creator's private key?

Yes, you can sign it with your own private key because you are now the "creator".

That's the point of digital assets, they are fungible by definition because it's a bunch of 1s and 0s, doesn't matter which system you run it on you will get an indistinguishable output.

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