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'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by jelling »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #142
rufus_foreman wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe you're losing your edge to better-looking people with better ideas and more talent who are actually really really nice.

Does anyone want nice people? Or do they want real people? Give me a chubby 35 year old nerd who knows tons of stuff over a nice attractive couple who take good pictures to sell advertising.

Previous comment was a quote from the song “Losing My Edge” by LCD Soundsystem. The genius of the lyrics is in sardonically complaining about the new generation but also admitting the real problem is that the singer is growing old.

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Post by taurath »

schnevets wrote: post #56

I love my backyard garden (even though my Brussels Sprout experiment this year proved to be a huge waste of time). I also love the aesthetic that cottagecore is revitalizing. I love drinking at local wineries, buying stuff at my local farmer's market, brewing beer and swapping bottles with homebrew friends, etc... But holy shit am I repulsed by the influencer aspect that is growing with this "movement". Ways of Seein…

Its a little too easy to mistake people "brand building" themselves for a community nowadays.

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Post by sjwalter »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #154
iamthemonster wrote: post #144

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As a British person, I am delighted and amused that Shatner's cover is better known to many people than Pulp's original.

Even though Shatner's "singing" is pretty mockable, I think in this case he brings a tone of working class anger that elevates the cover above the original.

Shatner's "Has Been" album is a masterpiece.

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Post by qualudeheart »

If people are fixed and not transferred, people will not think of outside things. Not thinking of outside things, the people will turn cottage inhabitants. Cottagecore will succeed, and the country will be rich.

Cottagecore succeeding, and the country being rich, the army will be strong.

Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by asdff »

dragonwriter wrote: post #145
asdff wrote: post #102

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One of the worst things we did in the past century is paint the idea of an apartment high rise full of decent sized family apartments overlooking a green shady courtyard as some communist evil, to be actively outlawed. We haven't gotten past that sentiment towards apartment living to this day. Even what we do build in terms of apartments is only really studios or 1 or 2 bedroom units. If you want to have a family, th…

> Even what we do build in terms of apartments is only really studios or 1 or 2 bedroom units. In suburbia, sure. In urban areas, 3+ bedroom apartments are definitely a thing, as are relatively spacious apartments for their bedroom count, and overlooking luxurious courtyards. They are as expensive as you’d expect from places where studios are more expensive than suburban 3 bedroom single-family homes, though.

I live in a city of 4 million people and I can tell you that in these new construction builds that they legitimately do not build for families. You will rarely if ever see a new construction 3 or 4 bedroom, its typical for these builds to have some studios and 1 or 2s but hardly ever larger units. All that's available of that size is old housing stock from the 1970s or before.

Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by sjwalter »

davidw wrote: post #87

This is, in reality, probably less 'green' than living in a city. Multi-family homes tend to require less energy to heat and cool, because you share walls. You can also walk to many things, bike, or take transit. My bet is that most of the people living in these rural places aren't so into the 'rural lifestyle' that they don't own a couple of cars that they use for ... pretty much everything in life.

Making large life decisions based on your own personal GHG emissions is living as though you are already dead.

I moved out to the country. Bought a big diesel. Started a farm. My GHGs went way up.

And yet, my lifestyle change has zero impact on climate change.

It's like voting--if you know game theory at all, you know it's a waste of time, just like it's a waste of a life to spend your time calculating and optimizing how "green" you're being. Zero real impact, beyond whatever it makes you feel.

Hey, I enjoy dirt bikes and the shooting guns on my land. My kids do too. Maybe you enjoy riding the bus and being efficient. To each their own. But don't live a lesser life just to live up to some lifestyle meme--whether it's the homesteading trend or the green trend--just do what you like.

Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by asdff »

ramesh31 wrote: post #107
asdff wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the worst things we did in the past century is paint the idea of an apartment high rise full of decent sized family apartments overlooking a green shady courtyard as some communist evil, to be actively outlawed. We haven't gotten past that sentiment towards apartment living to this day. Even what we do build in terms of apartments is only really studios or 1 or 2 bedroom units. If you want to have a family, th…

>One of the worst things we did in the past century is paint the idea of an apartment high rise full of decent sized family apartments overlooking a green shady courtyard as some communist evil, to be actively outlawed. How many large apartment blocs have you lived in? It's not a very enjoyable way to live, particularly with a family. People want houses, garages, yards, and cars. Don't try to paint the selfish realit…

I lived in one about three years ago and it was full of children and families. It was constructed in the 1960s so it still had a few larger units. The grounds were recently renovated, so the children had an astroturf half length soccer field, a new playground area, a basketball court, a tennis court, and two pools and jacuzzis on each end of the property. The kids ran around the grounds absolutely amok with their little kick scooters unsupervised since the entire property was gated and patrolled by a security guard. I always thought living like that all year jumping into the pool with your friends every day must be a wonderful childhood. Probably nice for the parents being able to kick back and let the kids run anywhere within the property knowing its pretty safe.

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Post by sjwalter »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #8

Dealing with septic tanks - rotting uneven floors , shitty no pun intended plumbing and electrics - broadband from the copper era. No thanks - much prefer my modern sterile IKEA isocube.

I live in a town in rural Montana that has fiber to the home. Population is 800.

Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by sjwalter »

Ancapistani wrote: post #54
tibbydudeza wrote: post #8

Dealing with septic tanks - rotting uneven floors , shitty no pun intended plumbing and electrics - broadband from the copper era. No thanks - much prefer my modern sterile IKEA isocube.

It’s amusing how different people’s wants and desires are. I live in a very small town from the POV of what I perceive as the majority of HN - I have gigabit fiber and solid, level floors though. :) I could easily increase my income by $75-100k if I were willing to move to LA or SF. I’m not even tempted by it.

My town of 800 here in Montana has literally zero building codes. Almost zero zoning laws. If I want to split my property into little 5 acre ranchettes and build houses on 'em, I can, no permits or approvals or anything needed.

Freedom, baby.

Re: 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy

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Post by smoyer »

ioseph wrote: post #90
schnevets wrote: post #56

I love my backyard garden (even though my Brussels Sprout experiment this year proved to be a huge waste of time). I also love the aesthetic that cottagecore is revitalizing. I love drinking at local wineries, buying stuff at my local farmer's market, brewing beer and swapping bottles with homebrew friends, etc... But holy shit am I repulsed by the influencer aspect that is growing with this "movement". Ways of Seein…

I feel the same way about woodwork, sure there's gimmicky creators but the reality of the hobby is nobody is getting rich or famous, selling pieces will barely cover material costs and having the fanciest gear won't necessarily give you a better finished piece. Although epoxy river tables make me cringe everytime I see one...

I prefer epoxy fastened wooden boats (whether on a river or not). Amateurs out there who are following these "tutorials" beware ... you can become allergic to epoxy with repeated exposure so wear your PPE.
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