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Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by freetinker »

echelon wrote: post #41
jimt1234 wrote: post #35

Sounds like social media platforms might end up like cigarette companies, where they finally acknowledge the harm of their product and add a disclaimer to avoid liability: "This product is designed to manipulate you. It will probably make your life worse." Or, like the drug companies: "If you have depression, suicidal thoughts or find yourself screaming at some rando on the internet, stop taking Facebook and consult…

Maybe a required 20px white on black label affixed to the top of the app at all times. Like a cookie banner, but not dismissible? THIS PRODUCT IS DESIGNED TO MANIPULATE YOUR EMOTIONAL STATE. [READ MORE] That seems totally reasonable to me. We should call our legislators and demand this. This would make society so much better if Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, Reddit, etc. were forced to bear this marking.

This is a truly brilliant idea!

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by frijole »

rsj_hn wrote: post #39
krisoft wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is strange to me why did the Facebook person try to explain the term to the Senator? I’m no lawyer, and this is just my first reaction about what she answered based on what little I know. These Senate hearings are not jovial chats among friends. They are in the same ballpark as depositions, or interviews with law enforcement officiers. You are not there to make the opposition’s work easier. (Assuming you with co…

This whole thing is a performative display, so might as well take the opportunity to make the Senator look out of touch in their photo-op. Hearings were originally intended to be fact finding sessions. During an era in which 'Newspapers' were an experimental new technology, it was still a good idea to get all the lawmakers into a room and bring in witnesses to present different sides of an issue. And that might have…

And it's working.

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by freetinker »

tdeck wrote: post #12
ceejayoz wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spam filters are apparently ripe for regulation. https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-rep-greg-steube-asks-googl... > Pichai attempted to explain individual email account settings to Steube, prompting the congressman to interject when the Google chief said the “primary tab” is for friends and family. “Well, it was my father who is not receiving now my campaign emails. So clearly that familial thing you’re talking about…

It's not so surprising that these people are ignorant, but what's really frustrating is that they don't even realize their own ignorance. If they did that, maybe they'd get help writing these questions from somebody with a clue.

Let’s assume for a second that his campaign’s emails were truly going to spam by default. If that’s happening by default (we don’t know that it isn’t), isn’t that cause for concern?

Either the spam algorithm is rightly (by design intent) filtering because the campaign emails fit certain heuristics of spammy email. Or perhaps a skunkworks style rogue group within Google is meddling. (To be clear, I’m not suggesting this is happening, and personally believe it’s improbable – but one must consider that it’s possible.)

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by lugged »

dragonwriter wrote: post #32
myfartsarefoul wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they try to change the way they’re viewed instead of bringing up relevant facts, you know that they know that they don’t have a leg to stand on. I say we do to Facebook what JFK wanted to do to the CIA. Imagine social media without a profit motive. Decentralize, distribute and encrypt the fuck out of it. I don’t want curated feeds, I want to keep in touch with people I know.

> I say we do to Facebook what JFK wanted to do to the CIA. Use it to invade Cuba?

Get dead?

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by cratermoon »

ianai wrote: post #50
supercanuck wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Senators are accountable to the people, Facebook is accountable to its shareholders. It could be bozo the clown for all I care, but at least, someone is attempting to answer these questions on behalf of parents not technically capable enough to do something about this.

FB is majority owned by Zuck.

> FB is majority owned by Zuck.

Which just makes the statement "Facebook is accountable to Mark Zuckerberg".

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by cratermoon »

threatofrain wrote: post #6

To what degree should companies be responsible for goods which, without structured or disciplined use leads to harm, especially when the good in question has an apparently reasonable use case?

Ask anyone who died of smoking-related illnesses.

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by fidesomnes »

rsj_hn wrote: post #39
krisoft wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is strange to me why did the Facebook person try to explain the term to the Senator? I’m no lawyer, and this is just my first reaction about what she answered based on what little I know. These Senate hearings are not jovial chats among friends. They are in the same ballpark as depositions, or interviews with law enforcement officiers. You are not there to make the opposition’s work easier. (Assuming you with co…

This whole thing is a performative display, so might as well take the opportunity to make the Senator look out of touch in their photo-op. Hearings were originally intended to be fact finding sessions. During an era in which 'Newspapers' were an experimental new technology, it was still a good idea to get all the lawmakers into a room and bring in witnesses to present different sides of an issue. And that might have…

newspapers were new "in the 19th Century"

jesus christ the college educated are morons.

Re: Senators Blast Facebook for Concealing Instagram's Risks to Kids

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Post by ceejayoz »

freetinker wrote: post #53
tdeck wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so surprising that these people are ignorant, but what's really frustrating is that they don't even realize their own ignorance. If they did that, maybe they'd get help writing these questions from somebody with a clue.

Let’s assume for a second that his campaign’s emails were truly going to spam by default. If that’s happening by default (we don’t know that it isn’t), isn’t that cause for concern? Either the spam algorithm is rightly (by design intent) filtering because the campaign emails fit certain heuristics of spammy email. Or perhaps a skunkworks style rogue group within Google is meddling. (To be clear, I’m not suggesting th…

Have you seen campaign emails lately?

Spam's where quite a few of them belong.

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