Uh… is this a troll? Like other commented said, this feels like a anti-CoC thing or an extreme case of Poe's law, at least.
Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
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Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#102Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#103I thought this was a troll. I feel that the identifying of CEOs of big companies as a protected class may have been a tipping of the hat. There seems to be a common strategy by right wing accelerationists that involve masquerading as left wing and pushing things into absurdity.
> There seems to be a common strategy by right wing accelerationists that involve masquerading as left wing and pushing things into absurdity. Or does there? The truly disturbing aspect of so many things like this is that (as per Poe's Law) it's impossible to distinguish cynical mockery from earnestly-held extremism.
I can't tell if it fits the Ruby CoC case. I'm just keeping an open mind to the possibility.
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#104This github links to a twitter thread about rationale for the change which mentions a sexist joke that was in the ruby mailing lists but doesn't link to it. I feel like I've read entire news articles about kinds of events like these where no one will actually show what was said. We're just supposed to agree it was really bad sight unseen. Here's my guess at the joke at the core of this for anyone wondering: http://bl…
It's mentioned (quoted) in the github thread. It was a "joke" about women and age. Date.today Date.today +1 # no error, but wrong result! # Maybe this has been written for women, having calculated their age ;)
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#105.
How about not telling offensive jokes, not making offensive assumptions, or just not being offensive. Its a programming language mailing list, what exactly is it about a sexist joke that you think belongs there?
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#106Almost more surprising is that this was removed: > When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants should always assume good intentions. In favor of this: > Participants should speak and act with good intentions, but understand that intent and impact are not equivalent. Also changed yesterday: > Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated. became: > Behaviour which ca…
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Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's one of the rules they removed.
No it isn't? It's unchanged in the linked PR.
> Encouraged by the quick success of this PR, I made #2691 with another small change. One step at a time at fixing the world :)
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#108Almost more surprising is that this was removed: > When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants should always assume good intentions. In favor of this: > Participants should speak and act with good intentions, but understand that intent and impact are not equivalent. Also changed yesterday: > Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated. became: > Behaviour which ca…
It's hard to agree on the exact boundary between enabling a jerk and making an issue out of nothing. But the old "assume good intentions" policy does sound to me uncomfortably similar to "if you're offended it's your own fault". Which is generally how people treat victims of harassment in communities where that sort of harassment is tolerated.
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#109Almost more surprising is that this was removed: > When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants should always assume good intentions. In favor of this: > Participants should speak and act with good intentions, but understand that intent and impact are not equivalent. Also changed yesterday: > Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated. became: > Behaviour which ca…
edit: non just unwelcoming, it can be considered discriminating
Re: Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
#110.
How about not telling offensive jokes, not making offensive assumptions, or just not being offensive. Its a programming language mailing list, what exactly is it about a sexist joke that you think belongs there?
So why is the pull request necessary? It very obviously opens up the potential to be abused by people who would love to kick others out of the community because they don't like their political opinions.