My issue with this is the price. Not because it’s not worth it, but because it means no one outside of hardcore enthusiasts will buy one, that means very little software will ever be developed for it. Also I find the presence of the floppy drive in 2021 ridiculous. Yes the C65 had one - but that was a prototype machine from 1990 that was never produced. There’s no c65 software available on floppy disk, so no reason t…
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>price I'd consider buying one at 300€. I'm not even contemplating it at the current price. >floppy ridiculous. I disagree. Floppies are very adequate to this sort of hardware, and an important component of the classic feel. I just wish the drive faced the right side (like a keyboard Amiga) instead. It's not like they have any ports in there. Inserting floppies from the front seems extremely uncomfortable to even thi…
Tape drive would have been more appropriate, and more fun though :)
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#33My issue with this is the price. Not because it’s not worth it, but because it means no one outside of hardcore enthusiasts will buy one, that means very little software will ever be developed for it. Also I find the presence of the floppy drive in 2021 ridiculous. Yes the C65 had one - but that was a prototype machine from 1990 that was never produced. There’s no c65 software available on floppy disk, so no reason t…
I can imagine a version based on an emulation using a small ARM with the same physical keyboard and box, minus (or maybe not) floppy. The board is costly, and they expect to sell a finite number of units, so they need to recover the cost of the plastic injection tooling within that batch.
Having future versions based on emulated hardware would open up a market and drive down unit costs to more THEC64 Maxi levels, which would be extremely beneficial.
I'm looking forward to more retro machines, even if based on emulators, but with accurate physical reproductions of vintage hardware.
For lots of platforms, the physical object is not that important - We have 102/104-key with layouts that replicate most post PC-AT Unix workstations - it's the same layout we use, that the Archimedes and its descendants used, that most SGI's, most HP's and most other post-AT computers used. For those, the most important physical aspects are easy to replicate. If you really want, even a Trinitron tube can be replicated with a flexible OLED display and some bent plastic.
For computers like the C-64, 128, 65, Amigas, 8-bit Ataris, ST's, Apple II's, ///s, and earlier Macs, Sun workstations, Lisp machines, Alto's, Lilith's, DECs and others, the illusion will break if you use a PC keyboard and mouse. It'll feel strange.
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#35for 800 it would have to include a spiral bound user manual.
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#36The keyboard assembly is really cool and I personally appreciate the effort, but I bet all that custom plastic really adds onto the price. Custom double shot keycaps are not cheap. I wonder if there could be a much cheaper option with a simpler case and a PS/2 keyboard adapter instead. Perhaps even USB could work, but that feels wrong for this project.
It's a stand alone, one piece computer, like the old days.
I mean, you don't restore a Chevy Bel-Air and put bucket seats in the front, right?
Even down to the floppy. You get to thumb through the floppy case to find a copy of "Burgertime", shove it in the slot, plug in your joystick, hear the "whirr tick tick tick" of the floppy, and then MUSIC! CRESCENDO! ATTRACT MODE! AWAY WE GO! In all it's one channel, 8 bit splendor.
Pretty sure the market isn't folks looking for a bare board with cables strewn about. There is a lot of effort out there, and many folks, trying to replicate this "retro" experience. And others willing to support it.
Otherwise, yea, run a simulator on...well, anything. "Whee".
It's not my cup of tea, mind, but I'm not the one buying it either.
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#37My issue with this is the price. Not because it’s not worth it, but because it means no one outside of hardcore enthusiasts will buy one, that means very little software will ever be developed for it. Also I find the presence of the floppy drive in 2021 ridiculous. Yes the C65 had one - but that was a prototype machine from 1990 that was never produced. There’s no c65 software available on floppy disk, so no reason t…
> because it means no one outside of hardcore enthusiasts will buy one I can imagine a version based on an emulation using a small ARM with the same physical keyboard and box, minus (or maybe not) floppy. The board is costly, and they expect to sell a finite number of units, so they need to recover the cost of the plastic injection tooling within that batch. Having future versions based on emulated hardware would ope…
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#39My issue with this is the price. Not because it’s not worth it, but because it means no one outside of hardcore enthusiasts will buy one, that means very little software will ever be developed for it. Also I find the presence of the floppy drive in 2021 ridiculous. Yes the C65 had one - but that was a prototype machine from 1990 that was never produced. There’s no c65 software available on floppy disk, so no reason t…
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#40> Awesome chiptune potential: 4 SIDs, OPL2™ (wip), 4-channel 16-bit DMA-based Audio in FPGA FOUR SID devices? A new lot of actual 6581 or 8580 chips (which would justify the price, BTW), FPGA approximations (likely), or emulated in software?