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FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Re: FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Post by Mikeb85 »

edoceo wrote: post #10
Mikeb85 wrote: post #8

Points for being a cross-platform Go-based UI toolkit. But as a desktop environment, the design is far behind Apple, Gnome-shell, MS, even KDE.

Weird this young project isn't as polished huge, mature and widely used projects.

More like there's obviously no designers on the team.

There's plenty of tech out there to build on. Ideas to build on. No Web toolkit is going to look like a website from 20 years ago... This is dead in the water unless they can show something that looks like it was made in 2021.

Re: FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Post by MrWiffles »

Minor49er wrote: post #12

I hate to be that guy, but the first caption under the Themes section should read: "The standard theme in its dark look." Having the apostrophe in "its" makes it read "in it is dark look"

(Joke)

“Yew duz dem der graymur guud!” - Cletus the Yokel

“U like Ugg. Ugg make good words!” - Ugg the Caveman

Re: FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Post by MrWiffles »

drcongo wrote: post #5
gavinray wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To save other people the trouble: The "fyne" framework is a Go UI toolkit, in a similar vein to Qt or GTK. It leverages Go's cross-compilation to compile for various architectures, and has built in utilities for publishing for the iOS/Android app stores. This appears to be a desktop environment based on the UI toolkit. *Disclaimer: Interpretation based on 5 minutes of skimming docs

Thank you, that actually sounds kinda interesting. Very much not sold on the look of it though.

Yeah, personally I think it looks terrible. Like just aesthetically it’s ugly. Purely personal taste though, and I beat no ill will toward the folks behind Fyne. I liked into using it to build a Go desktop app once upon a time, and was just so strongly turned off by Fyne’s look that I just lost all passion for building that project itself entirely. Never even got it off the ground.

Which is totally my fault, for sure, not theirs in the slightest. It’s just…that ugly.

Re: FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Post by gizdan »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #11
edoceo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird this young project isn't as polished huge, mature and widely used projects.

More like there's obviously no designers on the team. There's plenty of tech out there to build on. Ideas to build on. No Web toolkit is going to look like a website from 20 years ago... This is dead in the water unless they can show something that looks like it was made in 2021.

"It's shit" is not constructive feedback. As the parent commenter said, this is a relatively UI toolkit, and this desktop environment implementation is even younger. It takes time and effort to tweak things and there's no need to be hostile to new efforts. Especially when you consider that Qt, Windows, GNOME etc all have had years and years to tweak their design, and have also been redesigned.

Re: FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment

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Post by pjmlp »

criddell wrote: post #14

I've always felt that OS/2's Workplace Shell was a lost opportunity. Other than NextStep, are there other desktop environments that can do similar things?

I guess NeWS [0] is a likely candidate, as Mesa/Cedar[1] as well.

Many of these ideas also kind of exist in Windows, with COM/OLE/.NET/Powershell, or GNOME/KDE, although not in consistent way.

I always felt SOM was much better than COM, it even had metaclasses as concept.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dt7NG38V4

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