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Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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It’s come full circle. I’ve often heard people (working developers) say over the years that software engineers are basically just digital plumbers. And the job often feels that way. Now we have proof that the skills do in fact overlap quite a bit with plumbing.

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Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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"Until I met Daniel, I actually didn't know that "smoke testing" was a term with a literal smoke-related meaning. I'd always heard it used in the context of software tests. Daniel used a tracing technique to follow a problem to its source, instead of just making random guesses." I've always known "smoke testing" to refer to the mythical magic smoke that makes all electronics work. Smoke testing is turning something o…

Tangential-ish: I used to live in a place where we had gas resources and gas stoves. Gas pipes would be painted yellow to stand out and people always had some sort of respect and caution around them - you don't mess with gas pipes - I learned that as a kid. At the slightest whif of gas people would light up a match or a lighter and run it along the pipe to check for leaks - I always thought this is what "smoke testin…

I remember watching my grandfather spit on pipes to find the source of a leak. It was viscous enough that it would bubble up. Taking flame to a gas pipe sounds absolutely terrifying.

Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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Interviewer - "That's impressive Daniel. Now can you invert a binary tree on the whiteboard?"

Jesus christ.

Inverting a binary tree is not hard. That people keep using this as a joke is more a testament to the stubbornness of people believing they shouldn't have to do no learnin' no more than it is bad interviewing practices.

Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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"Until I met Daniel, I actually didn't know that "smoke testing" was a term with a literal smoke-related meaning. I'd always heard it used in the context of software tests. Daniel used a tracing technique to follow a problem to its source, instead of just making random guesses." I've always known "smoke testing" to refer to the mythical magic smoke that makes all electronics work. Smoke testing is turning something o…

Tangential-ish: I used to live in a place where we had gas resources and gas stoves. Gas pipes would be painted yellow to stand out and people always had some sort of respect and caution around them - you don't mess with gas pipes - I learned that as a kid. At the slightest whif of gas people would light up a match or a lighter and run it along the pipe to check for leaks - I always thought this is what "smoke testin…

for the love of god if you smell gas please don't light a match to check. Real quick way to blow your house up if you do have a gas leak.

Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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Interviewer - "That's impressive Daniel. Now can you invert a binary tree on the whiteboard?"

The amount of time people spend complaining about solving trivial problems would be better spent studying for those problems in the first place.

If you literally know what questions are being asked in a test, you should probably fucking just learn it an move on.

Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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"Until I met Daniel, I actually didn't know that "smoke testing" was a term with a literal smoke-related meaning. I'd always heard it used in the context of software tests. Daniel used a tracing technique to follow a problem to its source, instead of just making random guesses." I've always known "smoke testing" to refer to the mythical magic smoke that makes all electronics work. Smoke testing is turning something o…

This- I knew the electrical sense that early software engineers working on hobby computers probably got it from, where it refers to wiring something up, plugging it in for the first time and seeing if it lights on fire / creates smoke. I guess there is a dual origin though https://medium.com/@AikoPath/about-the-origin-of-smoke-testi...

That reminds me of a story[0] my digital electronics instructor once told me. He was on a team working on satellite[1] electronics and had the whole thing laid out on breadboard. It wasn't working, and they suspected it was a short, but with so many connections everywhere it would take forever to find. So they decided to crank up the input current until the short started burning and locate it that way. It apparently didn't cause anything to smoke, but eventually someone did notice the orange-hot wire that was causing the problem.

[0] I have a terrible memory so details may be incorrect.

[1] IIRC this guy had worked on geostar satellites and the hubble, but I'm not sure if this story was about either.

Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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Interviewer - "That's impressive Daniel. Now can you invert a binary tree on the whiteboard?"

The amount of time people spend complaining about solving trivial problems would be better spent studying for those problems in the first place. If you literally know what questions are being asked in a test, you should probably fucking just learn it an move on.

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Re: The greatest resume I've ever seen

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So... smart and gets things done. Honestly that's all I look for on a resume. You also have to talk about it in an interview. I couldn't care less if you can invert a binary tree. One of the greatest developers I've ever worked with, I hired straight out of college. He graduated with an electrical engineering degree but his senior year he took a course in Java and liked it and decided to be a programmer. Couldn't tel…

The trouble is, this "je ne sais quoi" that you speak of, that you "could tell he had the chops to figure things out", is unquantifiable and almost totally subjective. To be a bit blunt and cynical, this way of evaluating candidates basically boils down to, "do I like this candidate?" Your criteria for liking someone happens to be that you look for these nebulous "chops for figuring things out". What about the other interviewers at your company? What kind of stuff would they like? Would they evaluate "chops" the same way you do?

Or, just imagine that you're interviewing a hypothetically equivalent candidate who also had the same drive and "chops to figure things out", but who happened to be less fluent in conversational English. Are you so sure that you'd be able to pick up on the same underlying "signal" about their chops, if it was obscured by some language fluency noise?

Hiring is a Hard Problem, and there's a big gap between well-intentioned intuition and translating that into robust processes.

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