Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
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Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#2They did this a year too late, and even after doing so, waited four months to reveal the results.
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#3They did this a year too late, and even after doing so, waited four months to reveal the results.
And it only works early in the disease course.
So, you have to actually know you have the disease and be willing to go into to the doctor immediately to get an intravenous drug regimen.
The Venn diagram between those who will do that and those who are already vaccinated is probably 100%.
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#4They did this a year too late, and even after doing so, waited four months to reveal the results.
And it only works early in the disease course. So, you have to actually know you have the disease and be willing to go into to the doctor immediately to get an intravenous drug regimen. The Venn diagram between those who will do that and those who are already vaccinated is probably 100%.
Treatment options are always welcome. The vaccines are not that effective in the people who need it the most.
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#5Openvaers.com
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
And it only works early in the disease course. So, you have to actually know you have the disease and be willing to go into to the doctor immediately to get an intravenous drug regimen. The Venn diagram between those who will do that and those who are already vaccinated is probably 100%.
Treatment options are always welcome. The vaccines are not that effective in the people who need it the most.
The vaccines are incredibly effective in the people who need it the most.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Treatment options are always welcome. The vaccines are not that effective in the people who need it the most.
The vaccines are incredibly effective in the people who need it the most.
The vaccine response is directly proportional to immune system function. It is not as strong[1] in older people, who are also most at risk from the disease.
[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03739-1
This isn't mutually exclusive with the vaccine being effective. However, we're heading towards less than 70% effectiveness (95% with fresh booster) against severe cases in the older age groups[2]. These cases add up.
[2] https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-...
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vaccines are incredibly effective in the people who need it the most.
The vaccine response is directly proportional to immune system function. It is not as strong[1] in older people, who are also most at risk from the disease. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03739-1 This isn't mutually exclusive with the vaccine being effective. However, we're heading towards less than 70% effectiveness (95% with fresh booster) against severe cases in the older age groups[2]. These cases…
> The vaccines are not that effective
> They are 70% effective / 95% effective.
Pick a lane?
Re: Phase3 Trial:Remdesivir Significantly Reduced Risk of Hospitalization with Covid
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vaccine response is directly proportional to immune system function. It is not as strong[1] in older people, who are also most at risk from the disease. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03739-1 This isn't mutually exclusive with the vaccine being effective. However, we're heading towards less than 70% effectiveness (95% with fresh booster) against severe cases in the older age groups[2]. These cases…
> The vaccines are not that effective > They are 70% effective / 95% effective. Pick a lane?
These are age cohort averages. If you die of COVID despite being vaccinated, clearly the vaccine was 0% effective and early treatment could possibly have helped.
Either way, 70% is not incredible in my book. The 95% from the booster will not last.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The vaccines are not that effective > They are 70% effective / 95% effective. Pick a lane?
These are age cohort averages. If you die of COVID despite being vaccinated, clearly the vaccine was 0% effective and early treatment could possibly have helped. Either way, 70% is not incredible in my book. The 95% from the booster will not last.
You are confusing the outcomes of 'serious illness' - which you presented numbers for, and 'death'.
Yes you are correct to say if something is effective 999,999 in a million, it is 0% effective in the 1 person.
As you specifically mention deaths, but present no information regarding it here is the UK data: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...
All cohorts: 51,281 total covid deaths in the 6 months Jan - July 2021. 640 of which had 2 doses of a vaccine.