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a) highly competitive landscape b) irreplaceable workers pick one
What? The “competitive landscape” is for companies trying to hire people who can deliver anything, thus creating workers who absolutely cannot be replaced without severe ramp-up times on many projects.
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People seem to think that once they are hired that their employer owes them something more than the agreed upon compensation for the work they agreed to do for them. If your work capabilities continually suffer, short of legally protected events, at some point your company will make moves to end the employment if you are no longer able to provide value for your compensation. Doesn’t matter if Amazon or a mom and pop…
The company does owe employees a lot more than agreed compensation. Companies, as entities in our society, fulfill certain roles which are without exception means to something else. We use (commercial) companies as instruments to improve human life. Modern economy in its entirety is but an instrument and not a goal in itself. I've grossly oversimplified things here for a number of reasons, but this is pretty much the…
having been through a similar situation myself (where the outcome has spilled over from the place i was working when it occurred to contaminate following business relationships) i've thought a lot about what went wrong and what i wish would/could have happened. i think, really, what would be ideal, would be some sort of pause or alternate low stress duties that can be put on the job. perhaps some sort of salary reduc…
Yup. This whole case is a great argument for unions. It would have been a good test of the Google union if it had happened there.
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So what should they have done? Paid him a $300k per year salary to do nothing?
They didn't have to pay it directly, but it is common for companies to have contingencies to pay employees 60% or more of their base salary "to do nothing: Amazon was already paying for, in part, long-term disability insurance, but the employee, manager, or - most surprisingly - HR were not in the headspace to even think of this, I assume because the default mode of is adversarial.
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Would you make the argument the other way? Where employees owe their company more than their agreed upon effort? I don’t think so. But what exactly did Amazon do here that was immoral or not ethical? Honestly I don’t see where it failed. The company may not of met the author’s expectations, but I feel like his expectation was “pay me no matter my performance because I cannot afford to take a LOA when my wife is dying…
> But what exactly did Amazon do here that was immoral or not ethical? They made him "choose" between his wife and his works. Well they didn't actually made him choose, as the alternative was inconceivable, thus, they forced him to perform while his wife was in a death sentence. That's the unethical part.
Chose to work there, chose not to take advantage of a LOA, STD, or LTD, chose work over grief for his brother, chose to take a losing stance on his perceived value at the company.
I’m sympathetic to his family tragedy, that’s an awful thing to endure, but this is less “bad bosses” and more “ignorant or greedy worker” in my opinion.
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The company does owe employees a lot more than agreed compensation. Companies, as entities in our society, fulfill certain roles which are without exception means to something else. We use (commercial) companies as instruments to improve human life. Modern economy in its entirety is but an instrument and not a goal in itself. I've grossly oversimplified things here for a number of reasons, but this is pretty much the…
I mean that’s a great pitch for universal healthcare as any I’ve heard. I would be for strengthening the FMLA as much as possible. But I’m not even sure covid is impactful enough.
I mean argue for universal healthcare all you want, argue FMLA protection expansions. But if $150-180k in LTD payout wasn’t enough for this guy to opt to take it, I am pretty sure a government program is not going to be that generous, ever.
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This isn't true, there's plenty of non-US people on Blind including me.
Currently to register in the app you have to select US or South Korea. They are setting a strong expectation that you should only do so from one of those countries, which makes it seem unlikely to me that I will find any colleagues -most of move would not think to fake their location. They also won't let you leave a review without a location in the US or South Korea. Makes it all a bit pointless if your company is no…
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A 'normal' company would understand that while a persons significant other is dying of a cancer, their work output may suffer as a result.
He was offered a Family Leave option, but the details aren't shared so it's hard to judge... Terrible situation for the author, but expecting the company to eat the 500k/year he was costing them doesn't seem fair either.
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He was offered a Family Leave option, but the details aren't shared so it's hard to judge... Terrible situation for the author, but expecting the company to eat the 500k/year he was costing them doesn't seem fair either.
Companies employ people. People have problems. Firing people, or forcing out people, when they have problems, doesn't sound like a very good place to work. It's very possible that the unspoken culture at Amazon is work hard above all else. If you've read "The Everything Store", there is a quote, something like, (regarding Bezos) "If you're bad, Jeff will run you out of the company. If you're good, he'll ride you into…
You start doing 50% of your work (under-performing) for a bunch of months and the company asks you to fulfill your side of the contract because they are fulfilling theirs. Is that weird?
Let's put it another way: You do your job well, the company starts paying 50% of your salary because they have problems. Do you keep working there till their problems are gone? Or after a couple of month you tell them: either you fulfill the contract or we part ways?
Here is the link for those that are interested
https://www.teamblind.com/post/%F0%9F%94%A5Amazon-pipd-while...
The timeline many of you have guessed is off, I didn't want to comment on the exact timeline as I went back to work a few months back and I worry about retaliation from Amazon. Several of my friends have reached out that had no idea how bad it was. In the article I stated that of course I could have done better but my performance wasn't zero more like 90%, is that enough when you spouse had a terminal disease? Plus I was clear about it before I started.
My performance came into question after I talked to HR, coincidence? There are many instances at Amazon, documented, where an employee is pushed out when they are having personal issues. This push from my manager put me in a spiral that I am just overcoming.
My daughters and I are working to find happiness again and unfortunately the cover of the internet lets everyone say whatever they want. I just hope anyone reading this never lives what I did. Watching this amazing woman that you loved so much slowly lose the light in her eyes. Watching her for eight days hoping she finds peace and then praying for one more day with her. Seeing her crossover with her last breathe. I don't know about you, but 100% seems impossible.