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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Per my understanding this has nothing to do with actual security. I think nobody steals smartphones anymore for the smartphone itself. Mainly because they are either getting locked or are easily tracked. That is poor business. What is happening in practice is thieves take sim card out of the phone and try to use it to steal from the owner as much as possible. Log in to bank account, reset passwords on social accounts…

eSIMs should help avoid this scenario, right?

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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> And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little weird. It's a negative change that I didn't know about and yes, it is weird/wrong.

I prefer to be able to locate my lost phone even if its powered off.

i'd like to be able to store a phone on the shelf with a properly conditioned battery, to be able to disable the radios during flight, or frankly anywhere else I don't want to be located.

Interesting how different people have different desires.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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As stated in https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/find-my/ Apple (or any other third parties) cannot access the actual location data in the Find My network directly. It is supposed to be only decryptable by your other devices.

That is if you trust Apple to design and implement everything correctly.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little weird. It's a negative change that I didn't know about and yes, it is weird/wrong.

I prefer to be able to locate my lost phone even if its powered off.

ok NSA

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

#147

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

I'm generally of the impression that any phone with an unremovable battery is never truly "off" at any given time, unless the battery is totally damaged. PS: I like phones whose batteries are removable, currently use a Nokia Android with a removable one. One advantage is that when the phone drops down, it disintegrates, frame from battery, decreasing the overall impact on the phone.

A fair impression to remain under, I think.

I remember using a low-energy bluetooth scanner and noticing a strange mac that shouldn't have been present. I really wanted to know wtf was broadcasting it. I searched and searched looking in stupid places. Eventually I settled down and began thinking clearly and looked at my speaker. Yeah, it was as off as the power button could make it, though still on. A good toss across the multi-acre yard and the signal faded accordingly.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

#149

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

> They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you

slightly tangential, I hate being informed of things when I try to do them. I'm in a hurry, I don't want to read all about something now. I wish the dialogs had an "email this to me, willya?" selection, with an opportunity to decide the long term setting that I want.

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