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Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for the author or to popular anti-China narratives in the U.S., but from a traditional geopolitical perspective China poses a threat because of territorial claims independent of Taiwan, most importantly its claims over the South China Sea. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_So... Those claims pose a grave threat directly to…

But is China really threating the US directly in anyway through military confrontation? Taiwan, China sea matters are localised to the close neighborhood of China. Does the US desire peaceful coexistence with China or not? Reading some of the hawkish, cold war style jingoism coming out of US media makes one wonder?

(Not who you responded to)

Jingoism is definitely present and infuriatingly becoming more financially viable for media companies pitching towards those parts of the populous, but it is important to recognize that that is the minority. Anecdotally, most people in my area, a college town in a republican state, are apathetic by means of being unaffected and uninformed. Even the chinese and korean people I've spoken with pretty frequently don't seem to particularly care or be informed. It is kind of weird, because it freaks me out and I follow it very closely; worrying about ww3.

Opposition to Xi Jinping in the executive branch is widespread, that is also definitely true. I think our hawks and their wolf warriors have created a feedback loop.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#183
post #69

But in these (dis?)information games, it wouldn't be difficult to setup a fake scenario like this just to make one's opponents feel really underpowered. Imagine the fun of building a nice cool futuristic mockup, putting in on a trailer, and then leaking it to tiktok. It would cost so little and be so fun. This is obviously comical speculation, but anything is possible.

I mean...night time exists and is useful. If they are moving it during the day I cannot imagine they really care all that much.

Add in that a significant portion of the structures that affect radar cross section are 'subsurface'

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#184

I'm surprised that there's only one other person in this thread discussing the possibility that this is a deliberately coordinated release of information by the military. I've never worked for the US military, however I doubt that if you're working in close proximity to classified hardware they just let you loose with a smartphone in your hand. The person filming this would surely have been easily identifiable, and s…

> I doubt that if you're working in close proximity to classified hardware they just let you loose with a smartphone in your hand

There is nothing except for speculation by the media outlet who benefits from it being perceived as classified that there is anything classified in the picture.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#185

It looks like a radar target. They mount them on sticks out in the desert and fire radar at them to study and tune stealth shapes. They are mounted on single sticks so they can be rotated/tilted to various angles. That's what the single central mount thing is, the 2" thick triangle bit with the two bolt holes. The leading edge of that mount also has a classic curve associated with some radar target mounts. It prevent…

Also found this:

https://www.mvg-world.com/fr/products/antenna-measurement/ra...

Someone’s going to have the clearance revoked.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#186
This is completely useless to our adversaries. The US runs disinformation campaigns so that in the case of an actual leak, the enemy would have no idea whether what they’re looking at is real or fake. They have to either disregard it or risk spending vast amounts of time and money chasing a decoy.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#187

I'm surprised that there's only one other person in this thread discussing the possibility that this is a deliberately coordinated release of information by the military. I've never worked for the US military, however I doubt that if you're working in close proximity to classified hardware they just let you loose with a smartphone in your hand. The person filming this would surely have been easily identifiable, and s…

It’s either misinformation or they really don’t care who sees that object. I think it’s likely the latter.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#188
post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a non-american, it's always interesting to see the point of view of the major military power. Why is China "America's top adversary"? Aside from the OPSEC issue, which is understandable, why does the author - and I guess it's a widespread view - considers China as America's utmost adversary? Can't there exist two rich and prosperous countries? Why does the author uses such jingoist terms? How should other countrie…

China routine threatens US allies with military, even nuclear action. If the US military did not consider China a potential adversary it is not doing its job. Threatening nuclear attack on Japan https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1228036.shtml Border standoff with India https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192872.shtml Threatening Australia with nukes https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1234460.shtml

Your link claiming China is threatening a nuclear attack on Japan doesn't even mention nuclear weapons, directly or indirectly.

China has a "no first use" policy on it's nuclear weapons, and therefore has publicly committed not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear state like Japan. (The US, in contrast, has a policy of allowing first-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.) For details on China's policy, you can see e.g.: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/25751654.2018.1...

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

#190

If that was a classified plane, do you really think they would be moving it around in broad daylight without being covered?!?!

No, and there's no chance a guy whose reaction is "what the f is that" would be anywhere near it. Probably just some test model, but that doesn't make for clickbait. Oh no! Look at all the "OPSEC" in this 2008 promo video of the same facility on youtube... https://youtu.be/0LIqRshUoPc?t=108

Wow, this is a great find. Looks identical to the object in the Tiktok video.
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