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Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by 23B1 »

Johnny555 wrote: post #17

An OPSEC violation has once again made a case for why using TikTok should be a punishable offense in the military, It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. If OPSEC is important, don't let people bring their personal camera phon…

You're totally right, but for whatever reason the culture of clout-chasing is especially bad on military TikTok. It's bad. Real bad.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by beezle »

kindle-dev wrote: post #49
chitowneats wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you watch the video? Someone is clearly recording this object intentionally. The camera pans and zooms to follow the truck. Whether this is secretly being sent to China via TikTok is somewhat irrelevant if an individual is breaking protocol by intentionally taking video on their smartphone.

I was responding to the comment asking why TikTok should be banned vs. other social media.

I suppose then that it is OK for foreign governments to ban FB, Insta, etc? After all, we all know what lengths the US via NSA will go to.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by tablespoon »

Johnny555 wrote: post #33
dcow wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The slant I picked up on is that Chinese authorities operating TikTok is the problem because the president can’t just dial Zuck and say “take that shit down immediately or else”. But in general I agree and find the slant annoying. I do think there is some discussion point buried in here about whether or not it’s strategic for the US to build dependencies on foreign software services… but… not sure if it’s a productiv…

I would assume that once a photo hits any social media, the Chinese and other adversaries (and allies) have already scraped it.

> I would assume that once a photo hits any social media, the Chinese and other adversaries (and allies) have already scraped it.

Don't all the social media companies make it hard to scrape their sites, especially in bulk? It's definitely impossible to contain something once it's all over a bunch of blogs like this, but it might be possible to contain some things if caught early enough.

There's also the private message angle: something shared through PM on a US social network may be able to be contained to the US, while anything shared on a foreign network may be able to be accessed by a foreign intelligence service, regardless of sharing settings.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by kbenson »

Frost1x wrote: post #46
Johnny555 wrote: post #17

An OPSEC violation has once again made a case for why using TikTok should be a punishable offense in the military, It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. If OPSEC is important, don't let people bring their personal camera phon…

>It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. There's an additional layer here that's often ignored: that specific piece of information that leaked is the same regardless of what platform it was released on, but if it was released o…

I agree it's not necessarily the same, but also think that it's bad to have any social media in a top secret context.

That said, it's pretty obvious the bias the source has:

- "and posted it to the Chinese government-affiliated platform."

- "social media platform tied to America’s top adversary"

The problem here is people sharing stuff publicly which they are obviously not supposed to. The rest is just theater, even if technically somewhat worse. If you solve the root problem, the variation that makes it slightly worse this time is solved at the same time.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by emkoemko »

kindle-dev wrote: post #49
chitowneats wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you watch the video? Someone is clearly recording this object intentionally. The camera pans and zooms to follow the truck. Whether this is secretly being sent to China via TikTok is somewhat irrelevant if an individual is breaking protocol by intentionally taking video on their smartphone.

I was responding to the comment asking why TikTok should be banned vs. other social media.

in China they don't just ban apps they ban military from even driving a Tesla.

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by baybal2 »

Frost1x wrote: post #46
Johnny555 wrote: post #17

An OPSEC violation has once again made a case for why using TikTok should be a punishable offense in the military, It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. If OPSEC is important, don't let people bring their personal camera phon…

>It's not clear why TikTok is singled out here, this could just has easily been posted to Facebook or Instagram or one of the other myriad of social media platforms, or pushed automatically to someone's open photo album in the cloud. There's an additional layer here that's often ignored: that specific piece of information that leaked is the same regardless of what platform it was released on, but if it was released o…

Vaguely looks like an X44. It is not a classified program.

Edit: not X47

Re: Secret military aircraft possibly exposed on TikTok

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Post by blunte »

But in these (dis?)information games, it wouldn't be difficult to setup a fake scenario like this just to make one's opponents feel really underpowered.

Imagine the fun of building a nice cool futuristic mockup, putting in on a trailer, and then leaking it to tiktok. It would cost so little and be so fun.

This is obviously comical speculation, but anything is possible.

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