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Re: Spaces launch in Element

#91

With Spaces shipped I want to recommend Element for my engineering conference. Unfortunately, Element on mobile is still more complicated than FluffyChat -- compare our install guides [0]. I feel the cost of Element when people e-mail me for tech support. The fact Fluffy instantly lets you sign-in makes Element lag behind in UX, which matters a whole lot for transient conference goers. [0] https://www.handmade-seattl…

Fluffychat has Spaces support (click on the icon next to Fluffychat text)

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#92
post #91

With Spaces shipped I want to recommend Element for my engineering conference. Unfortunately, Element on mobile is still more complicated than FluffyChat -- compare our install guides [0]. I feel the cost of Element when people e-mail me for tech support. The fact Fluffy instantly lets you sign-in makes Element lag behind in UX, which matters a whole lot for transient conference goers. [0] https://www.handmade-seattl…

Fluffychat has Spaces support (click on the icon next to Fluffychat text)

Should've checked properly; thank you! I edited out the last sentence.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#93
post #7

Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs. Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer long list of rooms/chats/channels on the left that you have to switch between in a single window. This becomes especially frustrating when you have several active chats going on at the same time, or when you want to retain some info on the screen while answering i…

In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.

By "tabs", the person to which you replied meant the ability to view multiple chats at the same time, I think.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#95
A week ago, I noticed that Element Desktop was starting to hide "rooms in spaces" from my home screen, which now only contains rooms not in a space.

I really don't like how Element Android has you separately pick which space to view (in the sidebar), and whether to look at DMs or rooms (in the bottom bar). Now I often end up picking the KDE space, but only showing DMs, which results in an empty view (because I've only joined KDE-related chats, not KDE-related DMs).

I think I'd prefer a list of spaces where I can set rules for what goes where. For example, I want to create a space called "Contacts", where I first manually pin my "self-room" for note-taking and test messages to the top, then ask Element to add all DMs I'm in, ordered by "most recent" or manual order. Then I want a space called KDE where I place specific KDE-related rooms inside. Then have a space called "Rooms" with the leftover non-KDE rooms.

In the process, I'd remove the Android client's bottom DM/room selector (unsure what to do with the notification tab), replace it with 2 "default spaces" in the left sidebar (one for DMs and the other for rooms, but with user-customizable rules), and let user-created spaces coexist alongside the two default spaces.

The end result would work something like a hybrid of Telegram's automatic rules, Discord's single DM namespace followed by a server list, and Matrix's current spaces system. Unfortunately, it seems Element has officially released the Spaces feature, ignoring (or not even seeing) my feedback a week ago in the Matrix HQ room. I don't know if they're still accepting changes to how spaces operate.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#96
post #28
post #7

Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs. Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer long list of rooms/chats/channels on the left that you have to switch between in a single window. This becomes especially frustrating when you have several active chats going on at the same time, or when you want to retain some info on the screen while answering i…

https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ is a client with tabs for Slack and Discord. Unfortunately it does not provide all the functionality of the web interfaces, though.

Also technically you can get banned from Discord for using third-party clients. Some people have used it and gotten away, some people weren't so lucky.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#97
post #7

Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs. Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer long list of rooms/chats/channels on the left that you have to switch between in a single window. This becomes especially frustrating when you have several active chats going on at the same time, or when you want to retain some info on the screen while answering i…

Someone please make a Matrix client that looks like VSCode.

The editor of the current file is the current opened room, and tabs to switch between rooms. The explorer shows rooms as files and spaces as folders that can be expanded/collapsed. Also support for keyboard shortcuts like CMD+P to quickly open a room.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#98
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where can I find the Space specifications? I don't see it in the main documentation ( https://matrix.org/docs/spec/ ), and "matrix spaces specification" in a search engine does not return anything relevant.

In this case, the parent spec change for Spaces was MSC1772: Matrix spaces ( https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/1772 ). You may also want to look into MSC2946: Spaces Summary ( https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946 ) and MSC3083: Restricting room membership based on membership in other rooms ( https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3083 ). These will manifest in a published version of t…

I'm really frustrated that:

a) Stuff like this gets released in the wild without being part of the spec making it effectively impossible for any non-element client to support at release time

b) Any room that gets added to a server that supports spaces is no longer accessible to anyone whose homeserver isn't running the non-spec-compliant protocol from an unreleased version of synapse, because the default room version is 9 and synapse's latest release doesn't know wtf that means

It's really annoying that something that is supposed to be the pinnacle of interoperability and federation breaks compatibility like this.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#99
post #4

Super exciting. Time to start bridging Discord servers to Matrix Spaces and encouraging people to switch, one community at a time.

Setting up a matrix server on an ec2 took a few evenings (lots of reading docs). Then, setting up discord was supposed to be more configuration…

Element has hosted instances for 10$/month and discord bridges for 20$/month?

Does anyone else run hosted matrix instances with bridges? I might pay 10$/month for that.

Or, are there AMI instances for that? I couldn’t find any.

Re: Spaces launch in Element

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.

By "tabs", the person to which you replied meant the ability to view multiple chats at the same time, I think.

So sort of a user interface like TweetDeck where you can horizontally scroll between multiple feeds?
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