Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
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Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
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Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#2As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not.
Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful.
China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP, other drones, etc. It could become a game of cat and mouse, and if the carriers get close enough, China's land-based missile defenses are toast.
Is the US developing hypersonics for close combat? How does this fit into a South China sea conflict, or does this assume the battle is closer to home? (If China goes blue water, is this meant to combat their carriers?)
If, when, and where will the theater be? What will the outcome be?
Would the conflict be limited to the coastal regions, or would it spill over into nuclear MAD?
Will either side back down?
I'm super curious about all of this, and I'm interested in more sources to follow. I don't know enough to understand military/navy Twitter.
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#3As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
> What will the outcome be?
Judging by what we did in Afghanistan, not good. I hope we don't send thousands to die and/or kill other people. If they invade the US, we fight, otherwise, we shouldn't be policing the world. I don't see the benefits of a war with China, or any other country at all.
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#4As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
> What will the outcome be? Judging by what we did in Afghanistan, not good. I hope we don't send thousands to die and/or kill other people. If they invade the US, we fight, otherwise, we shouldn't be policing the world. I don't see the benefits of a war with China, or any other country at all.
What if they decide they want to gobble up Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, Australia, etc? Should we just sit back and say "it's not us, so this is fine?"
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#5As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
there is no chance a US carrier could be nuked without a proportional response
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#6As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
DF-17 + DF-ZF & Xingkong-2
https://gjia.georgetown.edu/2021/01/27/chinas-hypersonic-wea...
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#7As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
Follow Arms Control Wonk. There's a bunch of OSINT folks in the podcast slack channel including friends of mine that have been interviewed by magazines like The Economist.
I'm there more for the cyberwarfare takes, but from what I understand nobody is seriously worried about a power imbalance between China and America regarding missile speed since interceptors aren't accurate enough, but that's just me regurgitating what I see tweeted around and talked about.
Edit: And don't be intimidated by people reverse engineering sidewinders in the Slack. The community is very open to humble, curious newcomers. They'll teach you how to analyze satellite imagery for free, haha.
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#8As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
Generally, I'd say that anti-carrier strike group tactics involve simply (well, maybe not so simple) overwhelming the defenses. Quantity can work as well as quality.
You might look into Russian missile work. Of course, as a land power (and not as invested in trade as China), their answers are different.
Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#9As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
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Re: Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden
#10As I understand it, China has hypersonic missiles and nukes, whereas the US does not. Should a conflict in the South China sea break out, China could nuke US carrier groups assuming their satellites aren't taken out first. That spells game over for US projection of power if successful. China could deploy air and submersible drones to get around downed satellites, but these have the potential of being jammed with EMP,…
Is the premise here that carrier groups would be survivable in the absence of hypersonic missiles? They... aren't at all, are they?