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Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by buescher »

mrkramer wrote: post #20

I will summarize what others said and I will add my own thinking as well. Web Development: PHP and Javascript and its ecosystem Mobile Development: Java/Kotlin for Android and Objective-C/Swift for iOS Enterprise software: C++, Java, Rust and Golang Machine Learning, AI and Data Analysis: Python and its ecosystem Embedded: C and Rust Game development: C++ for PC and Game Consoles, Java as well for PC games, Java/Kotl…

There's probably more use of C++ in embedded than there is Rust. Heck, there's probably more Ada and assembly, too, if you look for it. Rust might beat out Forth by now.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by ericb »

Ruby should be up there. Github, Shopify, Airbnb, Twitch and tons others are using it, but also growing incredibly. Growth of the Ruby talent pool slowed down while the JS SPA fad went nuts, but growth of companies using it didn't! So the Rails job market is hot--supply is down, demand is up!

Throw in the new Rails 7 upgrades with simple JS packaging, turbo and stimulus reflex, and there's a pretty solid case for really high employability going forward.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

mrkramer wrote: post #20

I will summarize what others said and I will add my own thinking as well. Web Development: PHP and Javascript and its ecosystem Mobile Development: Java/Kotlin for Android and Objective-C/Swift for iOS Enterprise software: C++, Java, Rust and Golang Machine Learning, AI and Data Analysis: Python and its ecosystem Embedded: C and Rust Game development: C++ for PC and Game Consoles, Java as well for PC games, Java/Kotl…

You probably should add C++ to embedded. It's used a fair amount, at least on larger processors/projects.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by aynyc »

closeparen wrote: post #40
aynyc wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enterprises have been trying to outsource development for the last two decades and failed miserably. The low-code/no-code trend is mostly a bust like AI/ML. Chasing hipster languages is rat race. If you are strong in Java, with reasonable professional behavior and don't live in the middle of nowhere, you'll make decent money for a long time.

They failed miserably at getting things done with remote workers, which is indeed difficult, but there's no longer any alternative.

You confused remote workers with offshore outsourcing. There is a huge difference.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by ebb_earl_co »

ChrisRackauckas wrote: post #11

A lot of Julia-based companies just hit big Seed A, Seed B, etc. rounds, with a lot more startups entering the space as well. There is a glut of Julia programmers in the industry now given all of this hiring. "Most employable" is hard because no one is in all places, but I can at least tell you that locally there is and will be a lot of hiring in the next few years here.

Oh, fascinating. Do you have any examples? I'm learning Julia and would be interested in setting goals for working at one of these startups

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by closeparen »

aynyc wrote: post #44
closeparen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They failed miserably at getting things done with remote workers, which is indeed difficult, but there's no longer any alternative.

You confused remote workers with offshore outsourcing. There is a huge difference.

The point of remote workers is it doesn't make a huge difference where they are.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

vgeek wrote: post #30
saberience wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of boring companies using C#? You know, many top unicorns use C#, many top gaming companies use C# (including Blizzard). Just because you have some weird anti Microsoft-bias doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong or "boring" with C#

I didn't say C# was exclusively used by boring companies. I made no claim that it was a bad language, quite the opposite (I would probably have it in my top 5 back end languages). I'm not using boring as a derogatory adjective-- just as catch-all for non-VC/FAANG companies. If you look at "boring" or mature companies such as insurance or consumer good companies, where technology is viewed as just a tool to solve the…

And the general balls-deep buy-in into the MS ecosystem.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by cableshaft »

mrkramer wrote: post #20

I will summarize what others said and I will add my own thinking as well. Web Development: PHP and Javascript and its ecosystem Mobile Development: Java/Kotlin for Android and Objective-C/Swift for iOS Enterprise software: C++, Java, Rust and Golang Machine Learning, AI and Data Analysis: Python and its ecosystem Embedded: C and Rust Game development: C++ for PC and Game Consoles, Java as well for PC games, Java/Kotl…

C# is probably a better bet than Java for PC/mobile games nowadays, as Unity is the second biggest game engine besides Unreal now, and probably the most common amongst smaller and indie companies, and that's C# under the hood. You'd also be able to make Android and iOS games from the same codebase.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by CodeGlitch »

mrkramer wrote: post #20

I will summarize what others said and I will add my own thinking as well. Web Development: PHP and Javascript and its ecosystem Mobile Development: Java/Kotlin for Android and Objective-C/Swift for iOS Enterprise software: C++, Java, Rust and Golang Machine Learning, AI and Data Analysis: Python and its ecosystem Embedded: C and Rust Game development: C++ for PC and Game Consoles, Java as well for PC games, Java/Kotl…

I'm pretty happy using most languages, even C is fun... There's something about it which pushes my buttons.

PHP, however, needs to be dropped kicked out of the window.

Re: Ask HN: Most employable programming languages for 2022 and beyond?

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Post by sundarurfriend »

ChrisRackauckas wrote: post #11

A lot of Julia-based companies just hit big Seed A, Seed B, etc. rounds, with a lot more startups entering the space as well. There is a glut of Julia programmers in the industry now given all of this hiring. "Most employable" is hard because no one is in all places, but I can at least tell you that locally there is and will be a lot of hiring in the next few years here.

> locally there is and will be a lot of hiring

locally as in in the Silicon Valley? Or did you mean it another way?

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