I love how clean and minimal-looking the UI is. Internet community should become aware of Spaces in the element app.
Spaces launch in Element
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Re: Spaces launch in Element
#82Cool, cool. I wonder if non-botching of newlines, paragraphs and quotes is anywhere on the roadmap. Apparently that's the hard problem for Element, especially the Android version.
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Yes MS Teams is a great example. It started as a Slack knock-off. Not a great one, the UI is too low density and the multi tenant support sucks unlike Slack's. But it was relatively snappy. And free for O365 users. But lately they've been adding many apps, Wikis, all these fancy meeting modes that make it seem like everyone is in a theatre and many more fluffy things. Now the app is so slow it takes more than a minut…
> It started as a Slack knock-off. More like a Webex Teams knock-off, as MS went after the Unified Communications space (group chat + video meetings, though they still lack contact center and hybrid meeting hardware).
Oh I thought it would only do group text chat when it first went live (still in beta).
But it could be that voice/video calls were blocked by our IT because at that time WebEx was our approved tool (not WebEx Teams, just the regular scheduled meeting tool).
Re: Spaces launch in Element
#84I use spaces to organize different bridged services, Whatsapp, Instagram, Telegram, Signal and Matrix itself. As a subset of rooms to organize a team, I think it would make more sense to host a separate matrix instance. But it can be nice to give access to a set of rooms in a public community akin to: - General - Dev Product A - Dev Product B - Watercooler - Sysad
I do this with spaces too. But it occurred to me that I'm essentially abusing spaces to act like client-side folders/groupings of rooms. Can you create a space that's only for "personal" use, if you are not an admin of your home server? Spaces are a great feature, but I think clients will start needing to add grouping/tagging somehow, in addition.
> I'm essentially abusing spaces to act like client-side folders/groupings of rooms.
That's exactly one of the intended purposes!
Re: Spaces launch in Element
#85Can I finally install matrix on a cheap server for semi private - semi public server ? Or do I have to wait for the new server ?
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#86That's awesome for teams to focus on just work conversations but unfortunately not enough. We've completely switched our work communication to a self-hosted matrix+element with SSO, so we can be sure our matrix auth is secured the same way our other internal services are. However, some of us also have personal matrix accounts which are offline during work hours and corporate accounts are offline outside of work hours…
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Yup. Multiaccount is desperately needed in Element. Other Matrix clients (FluffyChat, Quaternion, possibly Nheko?) have it already though)... plus you can always cheat and just open Element in multiple browser tabs :)
I got around the single-account limitation on Element by installing a work profile on my Android phone using Shelter[1]. I initially spotted this from HN while we were looking at migrating from Slack to Matrix and I wanted to keep my personal account separate. Works surprisingly well for my use-case (keep work stuff separate on Element) and even allows me to disconnect completely from work by simply turning off the p…
yeah, I've done this too - it's pretty simple and effective for getting 2 accounts for anything. though it's a shame that it's only limited to 2, since it's not like all people have only 1 job...
... but it's quite far from actual multi-account support, so I do think that's still necessary :)
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got around the single-account limitation on Element by installing a work profile on my Android phone using Shelter[1]. I initially spotted this from HN while we were looking at migrating from Slack to Matrix and I wanted to keep my personal account separate. Works surprisingly well for my use-case (keep work stuff separate on Element) and even allows me to disconnect completely from work by simply turning off the p…
Not really a proper solution for 98% of the public
Definitely not, I'd still preferr to have proper multi-account support over having to use a work profile on Android (or multiple profiles if using a browser).
Re: Spaces launch in Element
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In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.
You still need to go through the whole process of creating a Space even if it's just some place in a chat that you want open while you're having a conversation in another chat. You still have to use the same window to switch between them. These are not tabs.
If i read things properly, the spaces concept is not specific to the Element client (available per the underlying matrix protocol)...so technically, any other client could in fact apply a different UI/UX approach to displaying the spaces, such as tabs...again, if i'm understanding things accurately. So, maybe other clients could implement something more to your liking (such as tabs)??
Re: Spaces launch in Element
#90With Spaces shipped I want to recommend Element for my engineering conference. Unfortunately, Element on mobile is still more complicated than FluffyChat -- compare our install guides [0]. I feel the cost of Element when people e-mail me for tech support.
The fact Fluffy instantly lets you sign-in makes Element lag behind in UX, which matters a whole lot for transient conference goers.