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Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by awestroke »

jorgre wrote: post #295
awestroke wrote: post #126

Isn't Jorge Bucaran the guy who contributed code to Oh My Fish and then tried to DMCA it for copyright violation (for the code that he had contributed) in order to get more traffic to his competitor project Fisherman? I'd not trust anything this guy says

I'm that person, but that's not exactly what I did. Wahoo, a framework I had built, became the base for the then, new Oh My Fish. I, myself, committed[1] it into the Oh My Fish repository, effectively replacing everything but the name. This was a huge change. Regrettably, I didn't include a migration strategy, and ended up breaking other things down the line because of that. This and poor communication on my part, ev…

Every single step sounds like a nighmare to OMF.

1. You contributed code to the project that broke a lot of stuff

2. You tried to "take back" the contribution - this is really rich, as you already gave the code away as is without attribution according to the repo license.

3. Your ego just couldn't accept not being mentioned, so you thought attempting to kill OMF was a good idea. Your fame and glory was important enough to try to kill a popular open source project.

It's not that you could have handled it better, you behaved with ego and toxicity every step of the way.

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by tomxor »

hitekker wrote: post #300
tomxor wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I made it clear enough that I was suggesting these packages are somewhere above the one-liners. While I agree finding the right abstraction is useful and takes time, I find it hard to apply that to a package that provides a function that wraps strings... I think it's fair to say that it's somewhat useful, but easy to replicate from scratch, and that's ok it deserves to exist - it does however considerably aff…

The difference is that someone pirated another person's software and tried to get away with it. Then that person's fan club wrote a bunch of nonsense to distract, deflect and cloud their malfeasance. Attribution may not be a concern for career criminals but FOSS tries to stay on the side of the law. Otherwise, projects risk being "tainted" by copy-pasted code that could lead to even larger legal repercussions. ReactO…

wow... listen to yourself, this is FOSS, we aren't the MPAA. You are just banging the drum louder for the OP, nothing to do with what I said at all.

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by jorgre »

awestroke wrote: post #301
jorgre wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm that person, but that's not exactly what I did. Wahoo, a framework I had built, became the base for the then, new Oh My Fish. I, myself, committed[1] it into the Oh My Fish repository, effectively replacing everything but the name. This was a huge change. Regrettably, I didn't include a migration strategy, and ended up breaking other things down the line because of that. This and poor communication on my part, ev…

Every single step sounds like a nighmare to OMF. 1. You contributed code to the project that broke a lot of stuff 2. You tried to "take back" the contribution - this is really rich, as you already gave the code away as is without attribution according to the repo license. 3. Your ego just couldn't accept not being mentioned, so you thought attempting to kill OMF was a good idea. Your fame and glory was important enou…

Yes, indeed.

1. From a technical standpoint, it just meant swapping Oh My Fish for Wahoo and changing the name. But my complete lack of planning led to numerous issues that escalated to falling out with the team. I was new to FOSS, immature and reckless.

2. Absolutely. You can't take back gifts that you gave away in the first place. I could've looked for another way, but sadly, I didn't.

3. True. I felt slighted, and used that feeling to justify myself, but in hindsight, I was only being selfish.

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by hitekker »

tomxor wrote: post #302
hitekker wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that someone pirated another person's software and tried to get away with it. Then that person's fan club wrote a bunch of nonsense to distract, deflect and cloud their malfeasance. Attribution may not be a concern for career criminals but FOSS tries to stay on the side of the law. Otherwise, projects risk being "tainted" by copy-pasted code that could lead to even larger legal repercussions. ReactO…

wow... listen to yourself, this is FOSS, we aren't the MPAA. You are just banging the drum louder for the OP, nothing to do with what I said at all.

If you don't care about software licenses or attribution, then you're not apart of FOSS. Sorry, Tom

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by tomxor »

hitekker wrote: post #304
tomxor wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wow... listen to yourself, this is FOSS, we aren't the MPAA. You are just banging the drum louder for the OP, nothing to do with what I said at all.

If you don't care about software licenses or attribution, then you're not apart of FOSS. Sorry, Tom

I never said that... go back to reddit... please.

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by jorgebucaran »

ergocoder wrote: post #191
cannabis_sam wrote: post #113

Until this is resolved stay miles away from anything Andrey Sitnik has ever developed.

I would stay away from both, unfortunately. The colorette's creator, Jorge, tried to dcma other repos on GitHub: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10271304 Use his libraries at your own risk.

I'm sorry to hear that. I address the Oh My Fish fiasco here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28661561

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by jorgebucaran »

tomxor wrote: post #49
ctvo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original author mentioned reaching out privately. https://twitter.com/DerianAndre/status/1441851684095811585 As a "prolific and known" open source personality you'd think they'd be more careful? Their attitude since then has left a lot to be desired.

> Did you talk with him before all of this? > Yes This is a pretty terse reply, talk with him when... a month ago, or yesterday. I don't care for either side but I'm suspicious when people reach for twitter shame - it's more plausible that insta-pressure just forced him to drop his daily activities and immediately make changes to save face in public. > Their attitude since then has left a lot to be desired. What are…

I reached out to him when I could've filed a takedown notice instead. Later, after the tweets, I even asked him to shake hands on the whole thing[1][2][3], but he was already sunk-cost-mode on and determined to die on a stupid hill. Only because I called him out is that we were able to had my git history restored and copyright attributed.

> Their attitude since then has left a lot to be desired.

That refers to the forker's attitude following the tweets[4][5].

[1]: https://github.com/ai/nanocolors/pull/14#issuecomment-927757...

[2]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/56996/135221889-52...

[3]: https://twitter.com/jorgebucaran/status/1442055448899641348

[4]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28661094

[5]: https://github.com/jorgebucaran/colorette/issues/78

Re: A notable JavaScript developer shamelessly copied one of my most downloaded nod

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Post by richardfey »

zkldi wrote: post #167
richardfey wrote: post #163

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They copied the idea of gofmt; they could be a bit fairer with attribution to ESLint though.

I don't really think the idea is copied at all. The idea of formatting code is fairly common. I just think they should stop using deceptive advertising.

I meant copying without a negative connotation, as it is a good thing to copy good ideas.

But ESlint there does all the work, it's a self proclaimed "standard" that works very well in the modern working environments due to hype.

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