I realized that a lot of non-programmers don't know about installing an ad blocker, or when do have one, it's not ublock origin...
Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only browser that's been losing users for years is Firefox. That already tells Google all they need to know. (It also tells Mozilla what they need to know; pity they are deaf.)
I wonder why. It's not like Firefox is a bad browser.
> It's not like Firefox is a bad browser.
compared to chrome, firefox no longer has an edge. Chrome's restrictive addons is what made firefox stronger.
But ever since firefox removed the old XUL style addons, their utility has drastically dropped against chrome. I was very angry at their poor choice, as some really excellent, but unmaintained addons no longer work.
I put up with firefox, just so i can give them some boost (whatever that might amount to), but obviously not that many users would sacrifice their browsing experience for such purposes.
Firefox should be the premier customizable browser, with more addons than chrome. Instead, firefox chose to copy chrome. Thus, it is forever relegated to being second.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#43I've always used Chrome but recently I've been trying out Brave and its been quite interesting. I still use chrome, but if they were to remove adblock i'd move for good.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#44For me (I imagine a lot of others as well), it's simple. If Chrome removes adblock, I'm going back to Firefox. HN ilk don't represent a good target market. Can't really make money off traditionally tracked ads off of us. FWIW, I love Chrome, still do. I've been here since those entirely useless but super viral and catchy speed test ad/vids. It worked on me. I love the debugger as a web developer, more so than Firebug…
I don't see the point in using an ad blocker but running Chrome. It's not like Google would allow the ad blocker to filter their own tracking.
Sadly, the only option seems to be Firefox and the niche browsers.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only browser that's been losing users for years is Firefox. That already tells Google all they need to know. (It also tells Mozilla what they need to know; pity they are deaf.)
Mozilla annoys me. Truly it does. However, it's the organisation. Firefox as a browser, especially dev tools, seems better in every day use than Chrome does. I am really not sure why they keep losing users. I do remember being massive performance issues in the past, but that's really not the case today (at least in my experience)
"Firefox as a browser, especially dev tools, seems better in every day use than Chrome does. "
Cannot confirm at all. I do not know any feature in ff dev tools I am missing in chrome, but the other way around lots of it.
Mainly: editing and saving directly in the debugger!
Could also be my ignorance, but I regulary do debugging in FF and it works, but way less efficient.
Meaning I browse with FF, but work with chrome.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#46I've always used Chrome but recently I've been trying out Brave and its been quite interesting. I still use chrome, but if they were to remove adblock i'd move for good.
Everyone should use the last bastion of free Web: Firefox.
(which is actually pretty great, and I have a way better browsing experience with it that with that chrome monstrosity)
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
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Is v3 an horrible solution or the deprecation of v2 in 2023? I ported one of my extensions to v3 and while the process was not completely trivial it did not took more than a few hours, in my opinion the change is worth it this makes extensions more secure. As far as I know Firefox is also moving to v3, maybe not enforcing it for now, but they will probably deprecate v2 at some point.
The new declarative APIs are great. They will protect user data from potentially malicious extensions. The thing is uBlock Origin is just so important and trusted that these restrictions shouldn't apply to it. The functionality of uBlock Origin is just so fundamental and unambiguously pro-user it should be integrated into the browsers themselves. Conflicts of interest prevent that unfortunately but the fact remains t…
Google is first and foremost an advertising company, it's in their interest to hobble ad blockers as much as possible. Personally I'm hoping that they do, because it'll drive people away from Chrome and nip what's looking increasingly like a monopoly in the bud by driving users to browsers that do support ad blocking.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#48Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#49This will not cause Chrome to lose market share, it is in fact the exact opposite. The move is _required_ for market share. Castrating extensions prevents average Joe from shooting himself in the foot. It is easy for us to forget how bad most non IT people are with these things. It's OK to have browsers aimed at different markets. I will continue to use Firefox but will not push it to my aging parents for example.
I feel the same for Linux on the desktop discussion. I don't want Linux to become another Windows or Mac OS. The DIY always tinkering with it is a feature not a bug. It's like a car you keep for track days. Sure you work on it all the time and would not want your grandma taking it shopping, but that's not it's purpose! Of course family cars will always have a huge market share compared to track day cars. And you would not want to change that because it would mean destroying what a track day car is in the process of making it user friendly, reliable, maintenance free, etc.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is v3 an horrible solution or the deprecation of v2 in 2023? I ported one of my extensions to v3 and while the process was not completely trivial it did not took more than a few hours, in my opinion the change is worth it this makes extensions more secure. As far as I know Firefox is also moving to v3, maybe not enforcing it for now, but they will probably deprecate v2 at some point.
The new declarative APIs are great. They will protect user data from potentially malicious extensions. The thing is uBlock Origin is just so important and trusted that these restrictions shouldn't apply to it. The functionality of uBlock Origin is just so fundamental and unambiguously pro-user it should be integrated into the browsers themselves. Conflicts of interest prevent that unfortunately but the fact remains t…
> They will protect user data from potentially malicious extensions.
No, they won't. You can still log requests however you want. The only difference is you can't modify/stop it. So the privacy concern is pure BS.