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Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Many years ago I published a small extension for common functions I use on daily basis(hashing, url encoding and decoding) for quick access as opposed to either opening a random site or some scripting language. If my memory is correct, I can kiss it goodbye(no idea where or even if I have a copy of the source code). Oh well... As for ad-blockers, funny enough I used to be firmly against them until not that long ago -…

The web without an ad blocker is essentially unusable.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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It's time for mass-migration to Firefox. Only losing users is going to tell Google that this is a horrible solution to enforce.

I am already here since the Phoenix times. Come over guys!

https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_...

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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It's time for mass-migration to Firefox. Only losing users is going to tell Google that this is a horrible solution to enforce.

The only reason I don't use Firefox is mozilla. I will never use it as long as it's under mozilla. I use Vivaldi, choosing to support a smaller, genuine business with no bullshit. I hope they'll eventually to develop their own engine.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla annoys me. Truly it does. However, it's the organisation. Firefox as a browser, especially dev tools, seems better in every day use than Chrome does. I am really not sure why they keep losing users. I do remember being massive performance issues in the past, but that's really not the case today (at least in my experience)

They just can't compete with Google and their massive marketing budget and shady bait & switch business practices.

i dont think it's merely marketing budget, thought that helps.

People who got marketed to convert, and hence, the product is indeed good based on this metric.

Firefox does seem to lag behind in terms of performance, esp. on mobile. Firefox also has poorer video rendering speed i think - i get more skipped frames than chrome. I tolerate it, but many users don't.

Firefox has some difficulty being deployed in an enterprise environment (aka, an organizationally managed profile, which chrome has). This has led to enterprises adopting chrome as a primary browser (over firefox), and this may lead to familiarity which causes them to also use chrome at home.

There's a myriad of issues with firefox, and it is rooted at the organizational level, rather than the technical level, but these issues bleed down into the technical level.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I have a stupid idea. But first, a bunch of questions: - Can you legally advertise a product you're not affiliated with? Is this OK by the ToS of major ad networks? - Is it possible to target ads by user's browser? I'm thinking, maybe we should crowdfund a public interest ad, targeted at people browsing from Chrome, with some attention-grabbing art or distracting colors, and a clear message: "Want to stop seeing this…

Even if it's not against TOS I would imagine most ad network just refusing to serve ads that encourage people to install ad blockers.

you don't have to mention adblockers in the ad. The ad could imply a cleaner browsing experience, faster, and your activities won't be tracked!

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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For me (I imagine a lot of others as well), it's simple. If Chrome removes adblock, I'm going back to Firefox.

HN ilk don't represent a good target market. Can't really make money off traditionally tracked ads off of us.

FWIW, I love Chrome, still do. I've been here since those entirely useless but super viral and catchy speed test ad/vids. It worked on me. I love the debugger as a web developer, more so than Firebug.

Overall, will be sad to go. Pour one out for Chrome when the day comes.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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It's time for mass-migration to Firefox. Only losing users is going to tell Google that this is a horrible solution to enforce.

What... Is the appeal of brave ? I hear it has crypto and shit but why not install Firefox with ubo and be done with it? I feel the "cool" factor of brave is silly as they are just fueling chromium. Why don't these chromium forks base on Firefox instead and do some leg work with the benefit of helping the internet as a whole ? I hear someone said on hn a long time ago, building on ff is a pita. Well guess what, Firefox folk do nightly builds of a boat load of versions and flavours and shit. Why can't you change a theme and call it a day?

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it's not against TOS I would imagine most ad network just refusing to serve ads that encourage people to install ad blockers.

Yeah, I guess. But I imagine there's so much volume of ads that they can't all go through human review. Maybe it could sneak in undetected and work for a short while, until the first tweet mentioning it goes viral.

It would probably work, until it really works - when it will be stopped.

But if done right, it has the potential to create lots of attention. An add, that wants you to see less ads, that was finally taken down by the big corporations? Very clickbait article stuff - it is just that (almost) all those news networks live on ads so have no incentive to push up this news.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I have a stupid idea. But first, a bunch of questions: - Can you legally advertise a product you're not affiliated with? Is this OK by the ToS of major ad networks? - Is it possible to target ads by user's browser? I'm thinking, maybe we should crowdfund a public interest ad, targeted at people browsing from Chrome, with some attention-grabbing art or distracting colors, and a clear message: "Want to stop seeing this…

That's competition with Google, against ToS.
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