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Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by nikolay »

stavros wrote: post #123
nikolay wrote: post #105

Unfortunately, Stavros has some issues keeping his services up. I was a user of his https://historio.us long-time ago, a paying one, and he just killed the service and lost all my data. Some time later, he restarted the service and gave my username to somebody else. Don't put anything meaningful and valuable into his services! Hello, I'm afraid I couldn't find your backup file :/ It looks like your account may have b…

That's a bit of a liberal retelling. You had a free account, the system sends you one (or two, I forget) emails if your free account is inactive, and if you don't log in for a few months it deletes the data to make room for others. There was a period where I didn't keep backups of the data on free accounts, but people complained, so I added that. I think it's a bit unfair to expect me to keep account data around fore…

Do you want me to provide you with the email trail? I remember paying for the account.

EDIT: Did you warn customers that their data (maybe a couple of megabytes) would be deleted? Did you offer me "upgrade to keep your data"? You simply disrespect our data. Also, your service was down for months if not years!

EDIT 2: Yes, you did say free accounts would probably get deleted after just 2 months without logging in.

My email thread [0] starts with me being certain I've paid for the account - that was 7 years ago and my memory back then was outstanding. Your free account had a limit of like 500 links and I had thousands and my account was paid for sure, but I was one of you first users and probably it was deleted by mistake or some flawed data migration.

Please, respect customers' data, it should be sacred - even if they are not paying customers! It didn't cost much to store links, even back in 2010!

[0]: https://nikolay.docdroid.com/H4ZYmsS/gmail-password-reset-on...

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by ryan-allen »

stavros wrote: post #247
jamesjyu wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still low even after HN surge?

Let me check... TWO more images were added today! At this rate, I'm going to need to buy a whole datacenter by next week. https://imgz.org/blog/2020/12/23/haha-suckers/

I like you (and I like storing images in the database).

EDIT: I uploaded an image into your database https://imgz.org/i3joC5jC/

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by nikolay »

kragen wrote: post #164
stavros wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found and posted the email thread where he admitted to not having a paid account. He also managed to get into his account fine (that's how he saw that the data wasn't there), so the stuff about the username isn't accurate either. I can look at payment records, but I've literally never had a single complaint of paid users' data being deleted by accident. I don't think he wants to hurt me (who cares about me or my se…

Publicly accusing you of fraud is at the very least malicious disregard for the truth if it's a false accusation. This is supposed to be Hacker News, not Character Assassination News. (That's Twitter.)

Never said it was fraud; it was a huge disrespect to my data, as if it was deliberately deleted and not data loss, it only worsens the situation - I did not get any warning; I did not get any offer to upgrade to keep my data! I will search for the payment. I could be wrong, my hundreds if not thousands of stored links, and hours were lost due to this disrespect. Look at the pricing page for this "new" service - it screams the same attitude!

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by nikolay »

hitekker wrote: post #195
kragen wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly accusing you of fraud is at the very least malicious disregard for the truth if it's a false accusation. This is supposed to be Hacker News, not Character Assassination News. (That's Twitter.)

Agreed. Nikolay appears to be trying to sicc a mob on Stavros.

Just a friendly warning, as his new "pricing" page reminded me of this accident!

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by stock_toaster »

buryat wrote: post #153
detritus wrote: post #110

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You know what, I literally couldn't give a fuck. I have multiple hosted web storage, google storage, paid-for dropbox etc accounts, as well as reddit and imgur accounts - and the one I use to share stupid images is this one. This was posted here a couple of years back, I liked the pitch, i paid for it. I also enjoy avocado liberally smashed on shit.

> I also enjoy avocado liberally smashed on shit. good luck buying a house being so financially irresponsible

There is "FU money", and _then_ there is "avocado money".

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by nikolay »

buryat wrote: post #147
stavros wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found and posted the email thread where he admitted to not having a paid account. He also managed to get into his account fine (that's how he saw that the data wasn't there), so the stuff about the username isn't accurate either. I can look at payment records, but I've literally never had a single complaint of paid users' data being deleted by accident. I don't think he wants to hurt me (who cares about me or my se…

> I don't think he wants to hurt me in their HN profile they wrote about themselves: Provocateur extraordinaire. So malicious intent cannot be ruled out

Next time you get years of data deleted without any warning, let's see how you're gonna react to it!

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by nikolay »

the_jeremy wrote: post #169
debarshri wrote: post #145

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The fact that you are putting customer chats in public forum without their consent is just terrible.

There is a difference between creating a public record and correcting the public record.

It's not the full thread, though. It's been many years ago, but I'm pretty sure I paid for it back in 2014, i.e., 7 years ago. Here's the full thread: https://nikolay.docdroid.com/H4ZYmsS/gmail-password-reset-on...

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by kragen »

nikolay wrote: post #273
kragen wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly accusing you of fraud is at the very least malicious disregard for the truth if it's a false accusation. This is supposed to be Hacker News, not Character Assassination News. (That's Twitter.)

Never said it was fraud; it was a huge disrespect to my data, as if it was deliberately deleted and not data loss, it only worsens the situation - I did not get any warning; I did not get any offer to upgrade to keep my data! I will search for the payment. I could be wrong, my hundreds if not thousands of stored links, and hours were lost due to this disrespect. Look at the pricing page for this "new" service - it sc…

You didn't say use the word "fraud," but the scenario you described—where Stavros accepted your money for a service and then chose not to provide it—would amount to him defrauding you.

From your perspective the difference may not be significant: your links are just as lost either way, and the money you might or might have not paid for the service is tiny compared to the time you had invested in creating the links. The difference, from my perspective, is that setting up a free bookmarking service and then shutting it down without enough warning is not a very rewarding activity, so it tends to be a self-limiting problem; by contrast, selling a paid service you then don't bother to provide can be extremely lucrative, like spamming, so it's the kind of problem that tends to grow rapidly without countermeasures.

That makes it a considerably more inflammatory accusation.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by toby- »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #217
stavros wrote: post #148

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Holy shit I LOVE the Labrador, it's the most useful thing I have. Guys, if you're into electronics at all, buy one right now ( https://github.com/EspoTek/Labrador/ ), it's amazing and only $30. Also I'd say I'm sorry about the comment but that would imply I've changed but I'm still a sarcastic asshole. I'm working on it though.

>I'm still a sarcastic asshole. Beats being a boring asshole like me! :P (And thank you for the kind plug)

I purchased one based on this exchange alone. I'm an impressionable sod!

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by pkulak »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #121
pkulak wrote: post #99

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> saved image in the DB Whoa now... you're putting images in the database?

Advice these days is to rely on the database to do the right thing with your uploaded files. I think they all handle this rather well.

That sounds right. But even if it works great, it's gonna be the most expensive place to put your data. Those image blobs would be fine on spinning rust.

But yes, there's probably time for that optimization later, if the service takes off.

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