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Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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As a professional classical musician for the last 30 years, my first question would be, is this superior to the built-in app on the iPhone for recording, and if so, can you explain how and prove that?

Also, as others have said, I would never consider paying until I could try it out in a full-featured way, and I definitely would not pay for yet another subscription service for something that is so dead simple. Especially not $20/yr. If I want to shell out that kind of coin, I can just use a Zoom H4n and own the device myself and have a lot more features, better mics, etc.

I do wish you well, though!

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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post #89

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> High quality stereo recording is only available in our premium subscription (20$/year). Is this the world you want to live in?

Do you expect them to provide it for free?

No, but I do personally expect a single, one-time price. There's no justification for a subscription fee for something like this. Especially a fee this high.

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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Again, very little knowledge about audio, but some knowledge about photography.. From what I have read, it is important to have a physically large condenser/diphragm for a mic to have high fidelity. Could you educate me a bit please? At least for photography, I can tell you with certainty, an iphone camera is basically a toy when you are talking of challenging scenes being put on large fine art prints. It is nowhere…

You're absolutely right, and your photography analogy holds for audio, too. However, if you look at the sales of consumer grade cameras as well as DSLRs, you'll see that smartphones ate a lot of their market. A quick Google gives you this continuously declining graph of DSLR sales, for example: https://www.statista.com/statistics/799526/shipments-of-digi... A phone will never replace a serious camera for large fine a…

Never is a long time.

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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Why should I use it over Voice Memos?

- You can actually find things again. I personally have so many recordings that are all named after my home address, and it's almost impossible to find anything older than a week. - You can take notes, both text and photo notes. For example, you can just take a picture of your amp settings to remember them. Many musicians already do that with their camera, but now you can keep it together with your recording - Much,…

Here's the thing: Voice Memos can currently record in stereo if you use an external mic with your iPhone.

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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Bug report: iOS 14.8 iPhone X Install from app store, open app, tap red circle to create first recording. Confirm/yes when prompted to allow TapeIt to access mic. Tap red circle again to create first recording. App crash. Relaunch, try again a few times. Every time, red circle record button -> immediate crash. :( UPDATE: Removed TapeIt and reinstalled it: now it works as expected.

Hey Chris, thanks for the quick report. Yeah, I've just seen the crashes appear in Sentry. Glad to hear that it does work as expected after the reinstall (although it's definitely unfortunate that it crashed before, sorry for the inconvenience). Did you experience any other weird behaviour before the crash? Best, Jan (from Tape It :)

No problem, JanNash. Only great UX after the hiccup w initial install. It's a keeper! Recorded 3 quick tracks and it's already clearly my new go-to "back of napkin guitar ideas" app.

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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post #101

As a professional classical musician for the last 30 years, my first question would be, is this superior to the built-in app on the iPhone for recording, and if so, can you explain how and prove that? Also, as others have said, I would never consider paying until I could try it out in a full-featured way, and I definitely would not pay for yet another subscription service for something that is so dead simple. Especia…

Hi Bud,

Thanks for your feedback. You can try the entire app for free. In fact, we give away almost the entire app for free, with the exception of the Stereo HD quality. If you are happy with the recording quality that, say, Apple's Voice Memos provides you, our app sounds exactly the same in its free version.

As I'm sure you agree, the best way to compare audio quality is just to listen to it. We have a listening example on our website, but you can try it yourself for free in the app for an entire month!

The Zoom H4n costs over $200. The sound quality of that device will be much better, but I'd argue that the UX of our product is much nicer. In addition to not having to carry around a dedicated device, there are just so many small UX things we've focused on that make working with audio recording much nicer. Take the Time Paragraph for example - once you start using it, it's really hard to go back to a single line for recordings longer than a few minutes.

I get your point about not wanting a subscription for something simple. Truth be told, we're also sceptics when it comes to subscription apps, but as far as we can see it's the lesser of evils. The freemium model allows people to try the entire app for free (and continue using it for free if they're happy with the feature set), and the subscription model allows us to ship major features as they are ready without having to pack them into a paid major upgrade.

There's also a psychological component that people are happy to shell out a lot of money for something that looks complex, but not for something that looks simple. Ironically, making a seemingly "simple" app is a lot more work. There's a lot more in this app than just the audio quality.

In our team, Jan - who also commented here - is also a professional baritone. I used to do classical singing, too, but not professionally. I feel confident when I say that we fully get your use case for recording. Give the app a try, I think you'll like it :-). It is designed for people like you.

Thomas

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

#108
post #32

With how many musicians use voice memos on iOS, this hits the right niche--somewhere between voice memos and garage band.

As mentioned, Apple launched an app just for that, Music Memos, and it was a great idea but fairly niche and not updated much over the nearly five years it was out. Apple discontinued it in December 2020. Fun (well, maybe not fun, but interesting) fact: when Apple was doing press briefings for the app, they managed to get me a quote from now-disgraced musical artist Ryan Adams (who was in the middle of a career renai…

What are the features you would have loved Apple to ship in subsequent updates for Music Memos?

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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So, I don't mind trials and subscriptions. And I will give this another go, however.. When I went to make my initial recording, the app asked me if I wanted to "try [Stereo HD]". I did this thinking that I could verify that stereo worked. If you're not going to let me try it without committing, you may want to rethink the onboarding flow a bit? But still, personally I'd consider giving users a proper taste of the pow…

Interesting. That is actually how the app works today: you actually have to tap try Stereo HD, then make a stereo recording that is at least 10 seconds long before pressing "try Stereo HD" again presents you with the paywall. We got a lot of feedback from users (and from Apple in their App Review -.-) that that was confusing; they wanted to see the paywall straight away. So now we're considering removing that try-it-…

Another option might be to let users have access to a shorter length Stereo HD recording without subscribing as a way to try it out? Maybe something between 10-30 seconds?

Re: Show HN: Tape It – iOS recording app for musicians

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post #89

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> High quality stereo recording is only available in our premium subscription (20$/year). Is this the world you want to live in?

Do you expect them to provide it for free?

Yes, I do. Linus seems to be doing fine.

I release all of the software that I write into the public domain.

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