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Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by stavros »

rexreed wrote: post #39
CosmicShadow wrote: post #9

Strike while the iron is hot I guess, but not sure why you you are being such an ass in your copy, it's kind of a turn off, even if it is super cheap. Maybe it's a trend where if something is super cheap people tend to write in that style, but it kind of erodes trust, unless this is supposed to be a joke site, but the fact that I don't know really hurts your chance to actually get users to want to give you their emai…

Honestly I'd rather have this straightforward no-BS talk than the "take this amazing journey with us" all is happy BS that is much easier to be cynical and skeptical about. What about the copy is false? It seems true to me, if it is blunt. I can't say the same for other website content that is much more bland, but also much more false.

I am half-hoping a company will buy this so I can write the "amazing journey" post I was born for.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by cooperadymas »

mikestew wrote: post #68
busymom0 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Join my onlyfans to get that video..

Now we know what keeps busymom0 so busy.

And where she gets all that money to literally throw at crappy internet services when she could be using Dropbox|Google|FTP|Fifikno for cheaper.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by TeMPOraL »

user-the-name wrote: post #119
rexreed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the customers know that "free" has a cost. That's the reason for this site's creation -- because if you're not the customer, you're the product. Free isn't the alternative that it might seem to be.

That does not answer the question "Then why would I trust him with my credit card"?

Because the author isn't hiding who they are (there's literally a link to their personal page in the footer), he's a well-known HNer with some street cred, and he operates in Europe. We happen to have laws here. He's set himself up so that if he screwed with your CC, he'd find himself in jail faster than your bank could process the chargeback.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by Waterluvian »

stavros wrote: post #189
Waterluvian wrote: post #74

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It’s all about context. In the context of informal Internet chat, this is mild. But as a business, in my own personal subjective opinion, it’s a real turn-off. I don’t ever EVER want companies to feign personality. At the moment it seems like this site exists purely because someone’s upset with Imgur. That’s a trrrible business model. I’m not about to rely on this existing in six months. What I want is the most dead…

1. It stores images. 2. I get money. 3. You get stored images. I thought this was quite clear from the opening blurb, even.

Then go with that. With as few words as you need.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by hitekker »

kragen wrote: post #164
stavros wrote: post #136

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I found and posted the email thread where he admitted to not having a paid account. He also managed to get into his account fine (that's how he saw that the data wasn't there), so the stuff about the username isn't accurate either. I can look at payment records, but I've literally never had a single complaint of paid users' data being deleted by accident. I don't think he wants to hurt me (who cares about me or my se…

Publicly accusing you of fraud is at the very least malicious disregard for the truth if it's a false accusation. This is supposed to be Hacker News, not Character Assassination News. (That's Twitter.)

Agreed. Nikolay appears to be trying to sicc a mob on Stavros.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by kibblesalad »

I can do this myself for much cheaper by buying a used computer from eBay, waiting 3 weeks for it to ship with missing parts, trading my old bike for more RAM from Craiglist, setting up Arch on it, compiling my own drivers, writing a webserver and firewall from scratch, connecting it to the internet and then using it twice before my ISP cuts my service for breaking TOS by running hosting on a consumer plan. I could have even just gotten a DigitalOcean VPS for $5 a month and conned friends into paying my costs for me in return for creating them a username and password to a half-working FTP server where they can upload their images in sixteen easy steps.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by corobo »

stavros wrote: post #165
hunterb123 wrote: post #113

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All of which disable sharing for a file if bandwidth usage is too high. That leads to the question. How much bandwidth does imgz stand up to? It says it's "included" so no charges, but quota is not clear. - edit - >No. I don't know. It's not a problem yet. If it becomes a problem, I'll make it your problem, but I think we're gonna be okay. Looks like there's no quota for now.

The quota is "whenever CloudFlare decides I've used too much of their caching", I think. Hetzner is pretty great about bandwidth, I think they'll let me use as much as will saturate the connection to the DC.

Might be worth looking at pulling with a Worker if that's ever an issue. They don't care if you do it that way :)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20791660

E: lol you were in that thread, you probably know about it

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by mmcwilliams »

CosmicShadow wrote: post #9

Strike while the iron is hot I guess, but not sure why you you are being such an ass in your copy, it's kind of a turn off, even if it is super cheap. Maybe it's a trend where if something is super cheap people tend to write in that style, but it kind of erodes trust, unless this is supposed to be a joke site, but the fact that I don't know really hurts your chance to actually get users to want to give you their emai…

I think making a super cheap service is the exactly the kind of thing that allows you to be "an ass" in your copy. Kudos, stavros!

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by stavros »

user-the-name wrote: post #119
rexreed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the customers know that "free" has a cost. That's the reason for this site's creation -- because if you're not the customer, you're the product. Free isn't the alternative that it might seem to be.

That does not answer the question "Then why would I trust him with my credit card"?

You know, this is an interesting question. The site makes it, I think, abundantly clear that I don't really care whether you use the site or not, I made it for me and you can use it if you pay for your resources. It's even open source and you can self-host if you want!

Yet people in the comments seem a bit offended at the perceived breaking of the unspoken assumption that a service can't exist without a need for customers. Merely asking the question "why should I trust you?" implies that I want you to trust me, which I don't.

I think it's very interesting how deeply culturally embedded the notion that a service wants customers is. It's so ingrained that we even don't believe that something can just exist without wanting us to use it.

To me, this kind of feels like you coming to my house, asking me whether you have some of my dinner, and when I say "yes but you need to pay me for the materials" you ask "why should I trust you with my money?".

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by Chico75 »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #20
d4mi3n wrote: post #6

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From the pricing page (fine print): * All prices paid per year but shown per month because if I get another person telling me that "$5 A MoNth Is toO ExPeNSiVe FoR 1 GB" I'm going to lose it. Small print may be too small to read. Service comes with no guarantee, not even guarantee of service. Do not email us for support you do not get any. Paying us money doesn't entitle you to anything except owning less money. Disc…

I still don't understand. $1 month is $12/year? Where does $5/year come from?

It was just updated: https://gitlab.com/stavros/imgz/-/commit/7bdac35c8bc397bf829...
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