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Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by jagged-chisel »

pkulak wrote: post #99
stavros wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that's extremely odd, I will look into that right now. EDIT: This is very odd, I'm not really doing any processing on the uploaded files, so it should definitely return the originals. I will have this fixed soon though. EDIT2: Unfortunately, the saved image in the DB itself is corrupt, so you will need to reupload after I solve this. EDIT3: Alright this should be fixed! Now I can start submitting animated GIFs t…

> saved image in the DB Whoa now... you're putting images in the database?

Advice these days is to rely on the database to do the right thing with your uploaded files. I think they all handle this rather well.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by stavros »

nikolay wrote: post #105

Unfortunately, Stavros has some issues keeping his services up. I was a user of his https://historio.us long-time ago, a paying one, and he just killed the service and lost all my data. Some time later, he restarted the service and gave my username to somebody else. Don't put anything meaningful and valuable into his services! Hello, I'm afraid I couldn't find your backup file :/ It looks like your account may have b…

That's a bit of a liberal retelling. You had a free account, the system sends you one (or two, I forget) emails if your free account is inactive, and if you don't log in for a few months it deletes the data to make room for others.

There was a period where I didn't keep backups of the data on free accounts, but people complained, so I added that.

I think it's a bit unfair to expect me to keep account data around forever for free, even after notifications that the account is inactive and will be deleted. Also, wasn't this more than half a decade ago?

EDIT: Also, your account isn't even deleted, only the pages are, so your username should still be there, no?

EDIT2: Also also, paid users don't get deleted, so something must have happened there. Maybe your payment method failed when renewing, or you didn't have a paid account? What's the username?

EDIT3: I found the thread:

You: Why did all my bookmarks disappear from my account?

Me: We only delete the links of unpaid accounts, as they take up too much space. We do have a backup export of your links I can send you, though.

You: Can you please? I will upgrade to a paid account if you restore my links.

Me: Sure, but it will have to be tomorrow, as I'm not at the computer right now.

And then what you posted above.

So it wasn't a paid account, this was seven years ago, your username wasn't given to someone else, and I didn't kill the service or lose your data.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by rexreed »

user-the-name wrote: post #119
rexreed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the customers know that "free" has a cost. That's the reason for this site's creation -- because if you're not the customer, you're the product. Free isn't the alternative that it might seem to be.

That does not answer the question "Then why would I trust him with my credit card"?

For the same reason you'd trust a free service with your data. Especially photos and image data.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by LegitShady »

pkulak wrote: post #99
stavros wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that's extremely odd, I will look into that right now. EDIT: This is very odd, I'm not really doing any processing on the uploaded files, so it should definitely return the originals. I will have this fixed soon though. EDIT2: Unfortunately, the saved image in the DB itself is corrupt, so you will need to reupload after I solve this. EDIT3: Alright this should be fixed! Now I can start submitting animated GIFs t…

> saved image in the DB Whoa now... you're putting images in the database?

say hello to my friend BLOB

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by debarshri »

stavros wrote: post #114
pkulak wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> saved image in the DB Whoa now... you're putting images in the database?

Yes, it's a database. That's where you're meant to put DATA.

How about filesystem or object storage? That where you meant to put a FILE which is what the user uploaded.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

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Post by jasode »

stavros wrote: post #114
pkulak wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> saved image in the DB Whoa now... you're putting images in the database?

Yes, it's a database. That's where you're meant to put DATA.

>Yes, it's a database. That's where you're meant to put DATA.

Most (all?) large-scale high-volume image storage architectures I'm aware of do not store billions of images as blobs in a database. Instead, they typically store the images as files. The database only holding metadata info and a pointer to the image filename location (or url if using AWS S3 or CDN).

E.g. Facebook is one of the largest MySQL sites (if not the largest) and they don't store photos directly in MySQL.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

#129

Post by CosmicShadow »

blunte wrote: post #15
CosmicShadow wrote: post #9

Strike while the iron is hot I guess, but not sure why you you are being such an ass in your copy, it's kind of a turn off, even if it is super cheap. Maybe it's a trend where if something is super cheap people tend to write in that style, but it kind of erodes trust, unless this is supposed to be a joke site, but the fact that I don't know really hurts your chance to actually get users to want to give you their emai…

I'm not sure there's any definite way to erode trust these days, since the most polished and believable sites can (and often do) completely betray the trust they instill or profess to uphold. Perhaps the creator is truly tired of the BS and guesses that there's an audience who also is. And for $5/yr, it costs virtually nothing to try. The bigger question is about limits of what can be posted, policing of content, and…

The fact that it's so cheap makes it feel even sketchier, like who am I giving my credit card to if they are making it that cheap and easy to do; is it a trick to get my CC? They don't care how little I give, because the $5 isn't their target, it's something else.

As a developer I know you can build stuff that actually is that cheap, but still, makes some alarm bell go off. Maybe if the site was worded differently, it wouldn't push things over the edge and I would "just try it".

Also, I think if you want just $5 a year, why even ask for anything, unless you justify why it's so cheap and how it will just be enough to cover x costs or something.

Re: IMGZ – Paid image sharing

#130

Post by kragen »

stavros wrote: post #123
nikolay wrote: post #105

Unfortunately, Stavros has some issues keeping his services up. I was a user of his https://historio.us long-time ago, a paying one, and he just killed the service and lost all my data. Some time later, he restarted the service and gave my username to somebody else. Don't put anything meaningful and valuable into his services! Hello, I'm afraid I couldn't find your backup file :/ It looks like your account may have b…

That's a bit of a liberal retelling. You had a free account, the system sends you one (or two, I forget) emails if your free account is inactive, and if you don't log in for a few months it deletes the data to make room for others. There was a period where I didn't keep backups of the data on free accounts, but people complained, so I added that. I think it's a bit unfair to expect me to keep account data around fore…

It seems like there's a dispute of fact, whether this person was paying you or not: you say "You had a free account," and they say they were a paying customer.

I don't think "half a decade ago" is a reasonable time horizon after which to consider accusations of outright fraud irrelevant. If this person is telling the truth, then not only did you defraud them a few years ago, but you're lying about it now; this seems like an important thing for potential users of your new service to know about you. (Presumably your character has not changed much in the last five years, whether it was good or bad before.) If you're telling the truth, they're lying, presumably in order to hurt you.

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