It is really worth it to switch to DuckDuckGo. You can throw a g! at the end of your search if you don't like the results DDG gave and it will redirect you to Google. That was the feature that gave me the confidence to switch over, it's painless to get different results, even on a mobile keyboard.
Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
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Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#42Google does this so they have click tracking data. But they don't need to mangle URLs in Chrome because it supports the `ping` attribute on tags [0]. The ping attribute basically adds click tracking as a native browser feature so you don't need to do URL redirects. It also makes these analytics much easier for the site and mysterious to the user. Looks like most vendors besides Firefox support it. (They were pretty o…
Firefox has a browser.send_pings setting to control this, not sending any pings when it is set to false. This is explicitly a valid browser implementation of the ping attribute: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html#hyperlink-... > 2. Optionally, return. (For example, the user agent might wish to ignore any or all ping URLs in accordance with the user's expressed preferences.) The problem isn't that Firef…
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s also a notable DDoS amplification vector[1]. [1]: https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/83890/hacking/ddos-html...
I'm confused as to why ping was used in that situation at all, rather than, for example, just a normal POST request.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm confused as to why ping was used in that situation at all, rather than, for example, just a normal POST request.
Doesn't require running javascript, so presumably the devices could be more efficient in sending them versus XHR/fetch.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#45It is really worth it to switch to DuckDuckGo. You can throw a g! at the end of your search if you don't like the results DDG gave and it will redirect you to Google. That was the feature that gave me the confidence to switch over, it's painless to get different results, even on a mobile keyboard.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#46Google does this so they have click tracking data. But they don't need to mangle URLs in Chrome because it supports the `ping` attribute on tags [0]. The ping attribute basically adds click tracking as a native browser feature so you don't need to do URL redirects. It also makes these analytics much easier for the site and mysterious to the user. Looks like most vendors besides Firefox support it. (They were pretty o…
Note the caniuse link says "While still in the WHATWG specification, this feature was removed from the W3C HTML5 specification in 2010." Another reason I prefer Firefox. Why implement a rejected non-standard feature whose primary purpose is to enable surveillance?
Something that's in the spec that matters (WHATWG) but not the one that desperately pretends to still have relevance for HTML though it hasn't since it tried to push XHTML 2 (W3C) isn't “rejected” or “nonstandard” in any meaningful sense.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note the caniuse link says "While still in the WHATWG specification, this feature was removed from the W3C HTML5 specification in 2010." Another reason I prefer Firefox. Why implement a rejected non-standard feature whose primary purpose is to enable surveillance?
> whose primary purpose is to enable surveillance Google search is good because it tracks what links people click and knows when they come back to go to a different url on the page. if 99% of people visit the top result for a query, return, then hit the second one, chances are that the top result never answers what the search query asks.
Google search might have been good over a decade ago but today it's trash.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#48Google does this so they have click tracking data. But they don't need to mangle URLs in Chrome because it supports the `ping` attribute on tags [0]. The ping attribute basically adds click tracking as a native browser feature so you don't need to do URL redirects. It also makes these analytics much easier for the site and mysterious to the user. Looks like most vendors besides Firefox support it. (They were pretty o…
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox has a browser.send_pings setting to control this, not sending any pings when it is set to false. This is explicitly a valid browser implementation of the ping attribute: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html#hyperlink-... > 2. Optionally, return. (For example, the user agent might wish to ignore any or all ping URLs in accordance with the user's expressed preferences.) The problem isn't that Firef…
Seems like it's set to false by default. So it's not really a "user request" not to track so much as a "browser request" not to. Reminds me of the situation with the "Do Not Track" header where browsers sending it by default caused the signal to lose all meaning.
Re: Prevent Google from mangling search result links when click/copying on Firefox
#50i always just assumed it was for improving the index. the more a result gets clicked, the more relevant it must be.
it's kind of a zero'th order optimization.