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Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by brianwawok »

HPsquared wrote: post #70
joeberon wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by that? They can fill jerry cans or siphon out fuel at home

More generally, people have limited capacity by how many fuel containers they own. I don't think there is a massive supply of unused jerry cans anywhere, and and in any case it would take several cans to equal a single car tank.

Have a buddy with multiple 50 gallon "drums" he fills up with gas anytime he even suspects that gas price is going to go up.

Sounds like a lot of work to maybe save $50, but hey... mostly fun and games (unless you barn catches fire).

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by teorema »

qzw wrote: post #5

> "The free movement of labour is part of the European Union, and we tried very hard to convince the British not to leave the Union," said Olaf Scholz, the Social Democrat candidate to succeed Angela Merkel as German chancellor. "They decided differently. I hope they will manage the problems coming from that," Scholz said. Man, I can smell the schadenfreude from all the way over here.

... except there's also news reports everywhere of an energy crisis in Europe too? Also maybe Asia as well.

I've been trying to read into the causes and dont feel like I've come to understand it any better. I'm tempted to see it as part of the broader supply chain crisis but I get the impression its a little different.

Then again I'm not sure I understand why the broader supply chain disruption is as pervasive as it is at this point in time.

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by eCa »

brightball wrote: post #64
bayesian_horse wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would they need to do to convince you they don't intend to punish the UK? Would they try to force migrant workers to work in the UK, even against applicable UK law? Other EU politicians have been quite diplomatic and friendly during the whole thing. A lot unlike a certain Prime Minister from a former EU member I could name.

Just an observation. Ever since the announcement it seems like various groups on Reddit and elsewhere want to celebrate every difficulty that the UK experiences.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to equate reddit with other EU member states.

As an EU citizen I’m sorry that UK left. And I do hope that things will not get much worse in the UK, though I fear they might.

I do think that brexit is the biggest self-inflicted harm a country has voluntarily done to itself in a really long time.

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by ceejayoz »

bayesian_horse wrote: post #54
jack_riminton wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The official line is that there is a lack of truck drivers, which is mostly true because Brexit has prevented a lot of the foreign drivers from working

It's definitely true that they lack truckers. They don't just grow on trees, and when a few tens of thousands leave, well...

I'd be leaving, too, if I'd spent Christmas stranded on an airfield. https://jalopnik.com/uk-airfield-becomes-worlds-largest-truc...

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by BoiledCabbage »

JimmyAxod wrote: post #49

The media need to be held accountable here. Everyone in the industry is telling anyone who will listen that there is no shortage of petrol (gas), and there is no shortage of drivers. Yet the media are still whipping the story because it’s selling papers/views/clicks etc for them. This is yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre, when there is no fire. There should be prosecutions for this sort of behaviour. Lives will be…

> Everyone in the industry is telling anyone who will listen that there is no shortage of petrol (gas), and there is no shortage of drivers.

If that were true, then there'd be no issue. But things were continuing to worsen before the media reported on it.

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by josephcsible »

TomGullen wrote: post #17

Unlike the toilet paper panic buying there is limited capacity people can buy, so I would expect this to naturally end short term when people don’t have capacity to buy any more. What concerns me is government planning to address this looks a lot more forward looking than a few days/a week, so I can see it getting worse. Interesting how the government say it’s not a shortage, if the refineries were running low you wo…

> Unlike the toilet paper panic buying there is limited capacity people can buy, so I would expect this to naturally end short term when people don’t have capacity to buy any more.

Didn't the Colonial Pipeline attack have people filling up plastic bags with gas?

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by ben_w »

brightball wrote: post #64
bayesian_horse wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would they need to do to convince you they don't intend to punish the UK? Would they try to force migrant workers to work in the UK, even against applicable UK law? Other EU politicians have been quite diplomatic and friendly during the whole thing. A lot unlike a certain Prime Minister from a former EU member I could name.

Just an observation. Ever since the announcement it seems like various groups on Reddit and elsewhere want to celebrate every difficulty that the UK experiences.

Reddit groups aren’t EU members.

And Schadenfreude isn’t punishment.

Re: Pumps run dry at gas stations in Britain

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Post by timellis-smith »

bayesian_horse wrote: post #74
brightball wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just an observation. Ever since the announcement it seems like various groups on Reddit and elsewhere want to celebrate every difficulty that the UK experiences.

Yes, there was razor-thin margin for the Leave campaign, with massive lies being told, partially financed by Russia, and the younger generation generally opposed. It makes travelling in the EU harder, let alone it risks upsetting the Ireland situation. You can expect an international audience to disapprove.

That's quite a claim. Do you have some strong evidence to back it up?

The electoral commission went to great lengths and expense to find any wrong doing and came up with nothing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20...

Edit: Rant alert: It really irks me that the people who call the Brexit election unfair, don't seem to acknowledge that Britain was never given any kind of referendum when joining the EU

"Although the United Kingdom ratified the treaty in Parliament, this was not without some opposition. Broadly the governing Labour party supported the treaty, while the opposition Conservatives did not. The Liberal Democrats supported the treaty, while calling for a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU as a whole.[119] Several 'Eurosceptic' MPs called for a referendum on the ratification of the treaty. Daniel Hannan pointed out that the Prime Minister, Tony Blair had twice promised a referendum on the matter, to which Blair replied that he had promised a referendum on the European Constitution rather than the Lisbon Treaty, which unlike the former was not a constitutional treaty.[120] In early October 2007, the Commons' European Scrutiny Committee had found that the treaty was "substantially equivalent" to the rejected constitution.[121]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratification_of_the_Treaty_of_...

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