Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by TeMPOraL » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 5:40 AM UTC

Having seen their previous releases, for me this doesn't sound like Anonymous. I might be wrong, but it smells like faked for me.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by TeMPOraL » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 5:41 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #12

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds completely out of character for LulzSec / Anonymous? They aren't stupid. They surely know that waging war against Facebook would be silly. I'd bet this is someone completely different, looking to pose as Anonymous. Try looking at the sources --- you won't be able to trace it back to an announcement by Anonymous. So who are these guys?

No, you aren't. It didn't "sound like Anonymous" for me, having watched their previous releases on other AnonOps campaings.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by felipemnoa » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 5:55 AM UTC

srl wrote: post #21

potatolicious wrote: post #9

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. [breathe in] Haha. Hah. Hahahahaha. Best of luck, Anon! I'm not sure if Anon fully understands the level of infrastructure and the level of preparation Facebook has... They'll need to come up with something a lot more compelling than a bunch of guys at home with LOIC.

This attack is scheduled to come soon after anon switches from LOIC to a "new cannon" dubbed #RefRef ( http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-hacking-tools-by-ano... ). They're probably way overconfident in their abilities (#RefRef's description is thoroughly unconvincing), but at least they don't think they're going to DDoS one of the best-prepared sites in the world, AFTER telling them exactly what day the attack…

Tell them you will attack on Friday but instead attack on Wednesday?

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by artursapek » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:00 AM UTC

I just hope these nerds stay on their computers and don't attack any actual people.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by Radix » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:05 AM UTC

xtal wrote: post #45

inconditus wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no better example of the No True Scotsman Fallacy.

No, that doesn't apply here at all. There's no (public) definition of who is or isn't Anonymous.

Sure it does. No true scotsman breaks down to a claim that some group has some Trait, then claiming that because some individual does not share the Trait they are by definition out of the group. I guess sometimes it's valid, but not here. Anon hasn't shown itself capable of an attack like this and if you look at the attacks by anon on scientology you'll be left wondering they were able to form a group identitiy with their fringe (core?) As it is.

Palish might be right that this doesn't sound like its from any of the main group.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by olalonde » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:09 AM UTC

Those guys really need some PR adviser... Taking Facebook down (assuming they can do it) certainly won't make them popular.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by gasull » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:14 AM UTC

Fake according to AnonOps:

https://twitter.com/#!/anonops/status/101152229087657984

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by gasull » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:15 AM UTC

gareim wrote: post #50

From #AnonOps: "TO PRESS: MEDIAS OF THE WORLD... STOP LYING! #OpFacebook is just ANOTHER FAKE! WE DONT "KILL" THE MESSENGER. THAT'S NOT OUR STYLE #Anonymous" That's not to say that Facebook won't be attacked, but most likely not by the people that form that Anonymous that WE think of when we think Anonymous. Although I suppose that any one or group could be Anonymous because of how they define themselves.

Link to the tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/anonops/status/101152229087657984

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by olefoo » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:17 AM UTC

almost_usual wrote: post #15

The only way I could see this going down is if they have insiders already at Facebook

Perhaps even at the very top? I mean this could just be a viral marketing campaign __for__ Facebook. Something to help them regain the street cred they are losing, something to prevent the inevitable myspacing of their business. Or maybe just a cover for planned downtime.

Re: Anonymous Pledges to Take Down Facebook

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Post by gasull » Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 6:18 AM UTC

gasull wrote: post #14

Zagafa wrote: post #3

This group calls itself anonymous as well, and uses the same 'branding', but it is useful to note that the people behind this may have no affiliation with the previous anonymous operations. The 'original anonymous press release' was Uploaded to youtube by FacebookOp on Jul 16, 2011, and picked up by media only recently. None of the usual anonymous twitter accounts ( http://twitter.com/anonymousirc http://twitter.com/…

Have any of the "official" (whatever it means) Twitter accounts said anything against FacebookOp? I'm wondering if this is an spinoff from Anonymous, a false flag, or even both things at the same time (possible).

They just did: https://twitter.com/#!/anonops/status/101152229087657984