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I was curious as to what was special about Leo, and it seems to be "outlining". I'm not clear on what this term means. Can you explain how Leo helps with it, and what it means?
I was thinking the same as you. It seems to be another term for code folding. It is where you collapse parts of a source file into a single line so you can just focus on the part of the source file that you are interested in.
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I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment. In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs. And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues
I outline my code, and other documents, by using folding in Vim. Plus plugins for Markdown, LaTeX, and other formats generate tables of contents from headers and sections.
>Here is reduced screenshot of Leo's main window. You can view the full-sized image using something like "view image" in your browser. What a weird sentence to read at this point of the Internet.
The website is terrible on mobile and the theming/branding also doesn’t inspire confidence. To me it conjures the idea of people stuck in their way. Then again, don’t judge a book by it’s cover.
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I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment. In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs. And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues
I was curious as to what was special about Leo, and it seems to be "outlining". I'm not clear on what this term means. Can you explain how Leo helps with it, and what it means?
For example, you can link one part to appear on multiple locations of the document. Or you can write a script which filters the parts and rearranges them in your desired structure.
The point of something like leo editor is to have theoretically a unified way to do all that.
As some others have already hinted, this sounds a lot like Emacs with Org-mode. Also, who writes such testimonial snippets? The style of writing doesnt make me particularily trust they are real :-)
As some others have already hinted, this sounds a lot like Emacs with Org-mode. Also, who writes such testimonial snippets? The style of writing doesnt make me particularily trust they are real :-)
It's not really like org-mode, but similar. The big difference is that org-mode has inline-folding, while leo breaks up and recreates documents on loading/saving-time. Inside the app, leo has better performance because of this, and potentially less problems with folding-syntax. It's also quite easy for leo to allow hard and soft linking in it's document-tree. With org-mode this is only possible through ugly hacks.
The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it: - A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs. - An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline. - A data manager, data manager and personal information manager. - A powerful scripting environment. - A tool for organizing and studying computer code. It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web de…
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The website is terrible on mobile and the theming/branding also doesn’t inspire confidence. To me it conjures the idea of people stuck in their way. Then again, don’t judge a book by it’s cover.
I was going to mention that Vim’s website[0] is possibly worse, but then I looked up Neovim’s website[1] which was definitely made with mobile in mind, and isn’t terrible. [0] https://www.vim.org [1] https://neovim.io
I find Leo's website worse than vim's. The vim site has a clear green download button. This is a straightforward design feature I like.
The picture with the kid and the power tool is funny. I liked that too.
Then, a advertising banner on the right colum. Seriously? On the homepage of one of the most [will not bring myself to say a deserved positive adjective here, because I go to church] open source projects.
Edit: Church references church of Emacs of course.
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It's not really like org-mode, but similar. The big difference is that org-mode has inline-folding, while leo breaks up and recreates documents on loading/saving-time. Inside the app, leo has better performance because of this, and potentially less problems with folding-syntax. It's also quite easy for leo to allow hard and soft linking in it's document-tree. With org-mode this is only possible through ugly hacks.
Org mode has the ID property, you can implement soft linking with them.