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Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by blitzar »

circularfoyers wrote: post #67
XorNot wrote: post #41

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Amongst other things they could take some action to develop an income stream that isn't whatever is going with their cryptocurrency endeavor. Signal could easily start offering named, verified accounts as a paid service for say, businesses, to have secure texting to their customers. Heck, named personal accounts for this would be ideal to. This is a service which has direct value to me (I already pay for an email dom…

Is it possible that Signal don't want to go down this path as it potentially puts them at the whim of the demands or requirements of paying businesses? Which demands/requirements may not be aligned with the degree of privacy which set them apart from other messenging apps. If not this, could another reason might be that they're still a small team and this, along with the other changes that would presumably need to co…

> are what are holding them back

No, integrating a get rich quick for the founders shit coin into their app is what is holding them back.

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by fsflover »

novok wrote: post #49
emptysongglass wrote: post #36

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For casual messaging , Telegram is fantastic. Actual multi-session clients across devices. No Electron. Truck loads of features and thoughtful touches everywhere. It's easily the slickest and if you're looking to have friends and family who don't have a lot of patience for technical issues actually convert and stay converted, it's the only one I've found to do the trick. Searching through your messages by type, reall…

WhatsApp has a better privacy story than Telegram, because every chat is a 'secret chat' by default. If your using signal, a priority for you is private chat with something the normies in your life can use, otherwise you'd just use whatever is the most popular where you live.

> WhatsApp has a better privacy story than Telegram

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25685446

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by elpy1 »

INTPenis wrote: post #102
LordAtlas wrote: post #4

It's really annoying that they didn't even acknowledge the problem officially. Till about 15 minutes ago, their status page said everything was fine. Their Twitter account still doesn't mention any technical problems. But the service has been having issues for at least 3 hours. [1] Most people I know that started using Signal a few months ago are now back to using Whatsapp. Privacy is a nice feature to advertise, but…

If people are going back to Whatsapp after that, then let them. Signal has been working really well for me for years now. I don't like it from a privacy standpoint, I'd much rather see wide adoption of Briar or Matrix. But to say Signal isn't working well for a free app is crazy. Who's paying for all their infrastructure anyways? What's the plan Moxie?

Time for people to look into Session (https://getsession.org). You get automatic native onion routing via decentralised infrastructure - currently 1800~ community-run servers (service nodes).

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by kitkat_new »

harry8 wrote: post #87
ddevault wrote: post #83

Bitten again by centralization. There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol.

>There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol. This is just false. You can disagree with moxie all you like and make your case but he has been very clear on the reasons why he hasn't gone that way and the success of his project among non-technical users where so many others have failed suggests he's doing something right. I will applaud and cheer if you show his concerns on federation aren't re…

I'll make one based on the Matrix protocol once I find someone who gives me 100 million dollars

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by 314 »

Santosh83 wrote: post #98
soziawa wrote: post #26

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> Most people I know that started using Signal a few months ago are now back to using Whatsapp. Privacy is a nice feature to advertise, but when both your UX and your reliability suck, it's not a good combo. Fully agree on the UX but not the reliability. WhatsApp used to be famous in Switzerland for its unreliability. On big European football games and Christmas / New Year WhatsApp was regularely down for 3 hours and…

> Fully agree on the UX but not the reliability. WhatsApp used to be famous in Switzerland for its unreliability. On big European football games and Christmas / New Year WhatsApp was regularely down for 3 hours and more. How do you know this is not intentional silencing by the govt to prevent terrorist attacks?

How do you know it is not X is not a reasonable form of argument. How do you know it is not quantum fluctuations in the techno-babble framework they use?

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by tcpekin »

Smaug123 wrote: post #72
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #57

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WhatsApp has a desktop version.

WhatsApp's desktop version is crippled because it requires connectivity to your phone in order to use it. I believe they're working on a client that doesn't require that, but it's not here yet.

I have been trying the beta and it's pretty decent. Still alternate between signal, telegram and whatsapp for different groups/people, but the beta definitely seems better that what was before.

https://faq.whatsapp.com/general/download-and-installation/a...

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by MayeulC »

bigiain wrote: post #88
krater23 wrote: post #48

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Sounds like you have a relatively new smartphone and never used Whatsapp.

That does describe me nicely (Well, sort of, my daily driver phone is an iPhone XR - so only _sort of_ new?). But. I also run Signal on a ~6 year old iPad, and I've not noticed it run badly there. I haven't tried Signal on a budget grade Android phone though. I have a few Galaxy S4s I use for various odd projects, but most "modern" apps run fairly badly on those. I'm also "looking forward" to a weekend or two's worth…

A de-googled Galaxy S4 with LineageOS is my daily driver, and has been for more than two years. Signal runs rather nicely on it.

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by maqp »

ddevault wrote: post #96
harry8 wrote: post #87

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>There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol. This is just false. You can disagree with moxie all you like and make your case but he has been very clear on the reasons why he hasn't gone that way and the success of his project among non-technical users where so many others have failed suggests he's doing something right. I will applaud and cheer if you show his concerns on federation aren't re…

Sorry, I was not aware that you were not permitted to criticize anyone unless you invested tens of thousands of hours into building a competing product to demonstrate your point. Something to remember for next time.

You're of course allowed to criticize but, as your "There is no excuse" shows you're not aware of the tradeoffs, especially to security agility centralized platforms do, there isn't too much insight in your categorical dismissal. As someone with tens of thousands of hours of building a secure messaging system, I can say it helps a bit wrt perspective.
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