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Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Re: Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Post by jdlshore »

djanogo wrote: post #19
ReidZB wrote: post #17

I don't get it. The article clearly outlines the factors accounted in the safety score, and vehicle speed is not one of them (at least not directly). Yet the author and apparently others are intentionally driving slowly to boost their score? That doesn't make sense. You can definitely "game" the score (to an extent) by making unnecessary trips, i.e. driving to give it more data, but driving abnormally slowly on those…

"vehicle speed is not one of them (at least not directly). Yet the author and apparently others are intentionally driving slowly to boost their score? That doesn't make sense." Makes LOT of sense, higher speed or driving at speed of rest of the traffic will require hard braking(>6m/h in 1sec) and turning. Most insurance companies also seem to be offering these dongles which rate you based on your driving. What doesn'…

I don’t see how higher speed equates to hard braking and turning. I regularly drive 75mph on the I-5 in Washington (state) and never have to hard brake or turn. It’s just a matter of not following too closely—I aim for about 2s following distance myself, a number that was impressed upon me as a teen in Driver’s Ed.

Re: Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Post by jdlshore »

bratcomplex wrote: post #2

Yikes. sounds like they’re model, in this case, for what is “safe driving” is too simplistic. driving like granny and pissing everyone one else around you off, most likely, makes for a less safe environment. road-rage is a thing. but this leads to another thought.. if Tesla has this data stack and, and lets say your a current non Tesla user, road-raging pass a granny Tesla driver. Tesla probably could pick up your pl…

Their model doesn’t include driving speed, so what’s simplistic here is Electrek’s interpretation of it.

Re: Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Post by Traster »

ReidZB wrote: post #17

I don't get it. The article clearly outlines the factors accounted in the safety score, and vehicle speed is not one of them (at least not directly). Yet the author and apparently others are intentionally driving slowly to boost their score? That doesn't make sense. You can definitely "game" the score (to an extent) by making unnecessary trips, i.e. driving to give it more data, but driving abnormally slowly on those…

If I drive slowly the likelihood of spotting a forward collision early is higher and I have more time to react, and certainly the speed differential as I approach some stopped traffic is lower reducing my braking intensity. If I'm driving slower I can make the same radius turn with lower Gs improving that rating, and I'm also going to be much more likely to be following safely since at the lower speed I can be closer whilst still having a safe headway.

So basically every metric is easy to improve by simply driving slower.

Re: Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Post by Traster »

I find this fascinating, because Tesla is meant to be able to completely autonomously drive a vehicle, so it knows how to drive safely, so what you would expect is just running the self-driving programme and getting it to judge how safe the real driver's actions are - ie, Tesla saw hazard X at time T, driver responded at time T+delta etc.

That's what I would expect. Yet instead of this they've got something that could've been hacked together in 15 minutes by an intern.

Re: Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’

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Post by tim333 »

ReidZB wrote: post #17

I don't get it. The article clearly outlines the factors accounted in the safety score, and vehicle speed is not one of them (at least not directly). Yet the author and apparently others are intentionally driving slowly to boost their score? That doesn't make sense. You can definitely "game" the score (to an extent) by making unnecessary trips, i.e. driving to give it more data, but driving abnormally slowly on those…

I don't know what criteria they use for unsafe follow time but I remember a government suggestion that was pretty impractical for rush hour motorway type driving. There were just too many cars packed into the road space to spread them out that much so even good drivers end up close to the vehicle in front.
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