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>Here is reduced screenshot of Leo's main window. You can view the full-sized image using something like "view image" in your browser. What a weird sentence to read at this point of the Internet.
Then again, don’t judge a book by it’s cover.
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I got really into it at one point (circa 2001) but kept running into memory leaks that made it really annoying. It’s like vim or emacs (or even got :) ) in that it has a logarithmic learning curve: steep up front, but the concepts you learn up front have a lot of leverage later on.
I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment. In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs. And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues
I'm not clear on what this term means. Can you explain how Leo helps with it, and what it means?
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I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment. In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs. And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues
I was curious as to what was special about Leo, and it seems to be "outlining". I'm not clear on what this term means. Can you explain how Leo helps with it, and what it means?
The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it: - A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs. - An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline. - A data manager, data manager and personal information manager. - A powerful scripting environment. - A tool for organizing and studying computer code. It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web de…
1. Emacs being an incredibly flexible computing substrate, a well-documented platform for software working with 2D text data as its core abstraction - on top of which all those use cases are supported, through both first-party code and third-party packages.
2. Emacs user base being self-selected to contain people willing to tolerate less than perfectly polished UI, various UX quirks, and who understand this is a hacker's tool, that can and should be modified until it fits the user like a glove.
In other words: this success story takes both more work than it seems, and a specific attitude of the users.
Ok, but when was this comment made? Was this in 1998 or in 2020?
The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it: - A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs. - An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline. - A data manager, data manager and personal information manager. - A powerful scripting environment. - A tool for organizing and studying computer code. It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web de…
Emacs pull all that off and then some, but people trying to copy it's success sometimes miss that this versatility depends on two factors: 1. Emacs being an incredibly flexible computing substrate, a well-documented platform for software working with 2D text data as its core abstraction - on top of which all those use cases are supported, through both first-party code and third-party packages. 2. Emacs user base bein…
more like a gauntlet
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Emacs pull all that off and then some, but people trying to copy it's success sometimes miss that this versatility depends on two factors: 1. Emacs being an incredibly flexible computing substrate, a well-documented platform for software working with 2D text data as its core abstraction - on top of which all those use cases are supported, through both first-party code and third-party packages. 2. Emacs user base bein…
> should be modified until it fits the user like a glove more like a gauntlet
Emacs-Evil-OrgMode is heavy, uncomfortable, and downright tiresome. But it is powerful, like an iron fist, and for some jobs a powerful iron fist really is the right tool.