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Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by [deleted] »

everfree wrote: post #69
donkeyd wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a free service with no actual income stream, driven by donations. What do you expect? I don't think we have the right to hold them to high standards because you get what you pay for. Signal has always been a bad choice for messaging in practice. In theory it's really secure and all, in practice, they have security issues that don't get fixed and no real reason to provide a quality service.

Are there any good paid alternatives to Signal? Looking for: Good UI, E2E, shared source native phone and desktop apps, group support, reliable push, easy setup. It seems to me that all the alternatives are either free and suffer from some of the same issues Signal does, or don't have all these features.

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Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by avnigo »

Down due to a hosting outage, but back up currently.

This is why I would wanna see user-hosted instances of the Signal server [0] plugging in to the network and supporting traffic.

I think a zero-config server app install of Signal server would work great for decentralizing the messaging platform too, but unfortunately it's not set up to handle that yet.

[0]: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

#94

Post by mstngl »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #51

Anyone using Threema? The app costs 3 bucks but then is free and e2e-encrypted.

Yes, I try to keep all the alternatives available. Threema has a fine reputation privacy-wise and has obviously a business concept (which of course builds a hurdle for users not appreciating the difference that means). Main downside for my usecase is the lack of a true cross-platform approach. They offer a cumbersome web-client only by phone connection (similar to that what WhatsApp allows).

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by ddevault »

harry8 wrote: post #87
ddevault wrote: post #83

Bitten again by centralization. There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol.

>There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol. This is just false. You can disagree with moxie all you like and make your case but he has been very clear on the reasons why he hasn't gone that way and the success of his project among non-technical users where so many others have failed suggests he's doing something right. I will applaud and cheer if you show his concerns on federation aren't re…

Sorry, I was not aware that you were not permitted to criticize anyone unless you invested tens of thousands of hours into building a competing product to demonstrate your point. Something to remember for next time.

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

#97

Post by donkeyd »

MrDresden wrote: post #61
donkeyd wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a free service with no actual income stream, driven by donations. What do you expect? I don't think we have the right to hold them to high standards because you get what you pay for. Signal has always been a bad choice for messaging in practice. In theory it's really secure and all, in practice, they have security issues that don't get fixed and no real reason to provide a quality service.

> "It's a free service with no actual income stream, driven by donations." Completely agree with this point. Unless you are paying for the service (by being the product or via donations) you have no particular right to get upset with the creators of said service. > "What do you expect?" Professionalism and an understanding of the impact this will have on Signal's users. Some will be cut off from necessary communicati…

> others might literally have their life depended on the service working

If your life literally depends on a service, make sure to pay for that service. Also, make sure to have a backup.

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by Santosh83 »

soziawa wrote: post #26
LordAtlas wrote: post #4

It's really annoying that they didn't even acknowledge the problem officially. Till about 15 minutes ago, their status page said everything was fine. Their Twitter account still doesn't mention any technical problems. But the service has been having issues for at least 3 hours. [1] Most people I know that started using Signal a few months ago are now back to using Whatsapp. Privacy is a nice feature to advertise, but…

> Most people I know that started using Signal a few months ago are now back to using Whatsapp. Privacy is a nice feature to advertise, but when both your UX and your reliability suck, it's not a good combo. Fully agree on the UX but not the reliability. WhatsApp used to be famous in Switzerland for its unreliability. On big European football games and Christmas / New Year WhatsApp was regularely down for 3 hours and…

> Fully agree on the UX but not the reliability. WhatsApp used to be famous in Switzerland for its unreliability. On big European football games and Christmas / New Year WhatsApp was regularely down for 3 hours and more.

How do you know this is not intentional silencing by the govt to prevent terrorist attacks?

Re: Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

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Post by zaik »

harry8 wrote: post #87
ddevault wrote: post #83

Bitten again by centralization. There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol.

>There's no excuse for not making Signal an open, federated protocol. This is just false. You can disagree with moxie all you like and make your case but he has been very clear on the reasons why he hasn't gone that way and the success of his project among non-technical users where so many others have failed suggests he's doing something right. I will applaud and cheer if you show his concerns on federation aren't re…

Here is the opinion of someone who actually made such an app: https://gultsch.de/objection.html
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