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Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by asveikau » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:43 PM UTC

rconti wrote: post #177

I'm a taillight enthusiast, but, I must say, it never even occurred to me that these look like an arrow, even after watching the gif. It's much less awful than the Mini Clubman, which, like so many new vehicles, have decided to install brake lights and signals IN THE BUMPER. My understanding is there's an EU (?) regulation that taillights must be visible when the trunk/hatch is open; eg, for roadside emergencies wher…

> Also, my standard rant, ban red turn signals. They should always and forever be amber,

I seem to recall reading amber turn signals are required the EU but not US.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by hellbannedguy » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

I don't care about the turn signals.

The mechanical problems are another story.

I have never met a satisfied Mini owner after 70k.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by indentit » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #17

malyk wrote: post #11

So the left turn signal is an arrow pointing to the right? And the right turn signal is an arrow pointing to the left? How does that pass, well, anything at all without someone saying “that might not be the best idea”!

How could anyone be confused? They’re on the side the car is turning - like every other turn signal you’ve seen in your entire life.

And if one tail light isn't working in the dark, or the view of one is obstructed, what then?

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by mthoms » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

jdavis703 wrote: post #87

dzonga wrote: post #20

someone sat down, designed those tail-lights. and got all the subordinates to nod, in agreement. then they later went to their husband / wife and little kids with a smug on their face like they did a good job.

Do you know this for a fact? Because it could’ve been some executive told the designer to make a Union Jack blinker. And the designer dutifully did their job, even though they thought it was stupid.

Who’s to say the parents comment isn’t describing said executive?

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by ChuckMcM » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

It would be fun to pull datasets of collision data based on this version of mini and earlier versions to see if there is a statistical increase in damage to cars while that are currently in a move that used a turn signal.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by kashura » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #111

jdavis703 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America has the highest per capita traffic deaths among OECD countries. Our traffic / vehicle regulations aren’t that strong and are rarely enforced on after-market modifications. This is getting downvotes, but it’s literally legal to drive a jacked up, high center of gravity pickup trucks in the US. Meanwhile in Europe such a modification would be illegal because it reduces front-facing visibility.

Per miles driven the US has an average number of traffic deaths. The problem is that the country's infrastructure is designed so poorly that the number of miles driven per capita is laughably absurd.

Maybe the root cause is the laughably easy barrier of entry to have a license to drive a death missile? It's a multi faceted issue of course, but to me, getting better educated drivers on the road is by far the easiest problem to solve around driving.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by rayiner » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

How did those make it into production?!

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by philsnow » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

mthoms wrote: post #181

Mini’s statement only highlights the absurdity (emphasis mine): >With regard to the turn indicator light pattern, there should be no trouble at all for a driver to understand, when seeing the full rear of the car , which direction is being indicated So what about when you can only see half of the car? Like when it’s changing lanes or pulling out of a parking spot? You know, like those times when a signal is MOST usef…

or when the back of the car is covered in snow or a million other reasons

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by WaitWaitWha » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

mthoms wrote: post #181

Mini’s statement only highlights the absurdity (emphasis mine): >With regard to the turn indicator light pattern, there should be no trouble at all for a driver to understand, when seeing the full rear of the car , which direction is being indicated So what about when you can only see half of the car? Like when it’s changing lanes or pulling out of a parking spot? You know, like those times when a signal is MOST usef…

Or at night, in the dark, unlit two-lane roads of most of Europe?

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by tiernano » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

I always liked the look of the new mini, and the electric one looks interesting, but then i seen the tail lights... Yea, British Heritage, whatever... IM IRISH... feck off... at least give the option of proper ones... BMW also own Rolls Royce... they dont do stupid things like this with them...