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Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by shotta »

lmilcin wrote: post #42
Bud wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're supposed to brush twice a day, get regular exercise, eat well, not get drunk, not smoke, have an appropriate work/life balance, limit screen time, get enough sun exposure, not get too much sun exposure, vote, floss, do unto others as we would have them do unto us, and change the oil every five thousand miles, too. But how is all that working out?

I do check my car every couple of weeks. I have a routine that takes about 3 minutes total. About twice a month so about 24 times 3 minutes ~ 1 hour per year. Although I could argue it actually takes zero time because I usually do this while waiting for somebody else to get into the car. As a side note, if you are too busy to brush your teeth you should consider talking to a health professional about consequences of…

My dad put little mirrors in the garage so he can check the blinkers easily without leaving the vehicle.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by codeduck »

shotta wrote: post #43
codeduck wrote: post #35

How hard is it to go: oh, the left hand side indicator is blinking. It's possible they might turn left. It's common bloody sense. This is honestly manufactured outrage.

What if it’s dark outside. Is that a motorcycle? I can’t tell. I guess that motorcycle is turning left.

If you're following close enough that this is an issue then you are driving too close for the conditions.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by sklargh »

Similar situation...the U.S. fire fighting community starting using European-style reflective chevrons in the 2005-2010 period. U.S. apparatus spec is governed by something called NFPA 1901 but is highly decentralized and people were mounting them upside down even though they were conforming to the (nascent) standard for rear reflective surface area. The "V" shape of upside down chevrons can pull people TOWARDS a vehicle vs. direct them away from it. Mostly fixed now but a hot mess.

Incorrect: https://ambulancevisibilityblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/...

Correct: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bright-neon-yellow-and-red...

Just why?: https://svigraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Curbside-...

tl;dr you can meet a safety standard and make things worse at the same time...

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by argomo »

> there should be no trouble at all for a driver to understand, when seeing the full rear of the car, which direction is being indicated.

This response from Mini presumes drivers have the luxury of using "system 2" logical/analytical reasoning in a hectic realtime environment where they must most rely on "system 1" intuitive reasoning.

There needs to be a name for this type design fallacy, because it's not the first time I've seen it.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

shotta wrote: post #43
codeduck wrote: post #35

How hard is it to go: oh, the left hand side indicator is blinking. It's possible they might turn left. It's common bloody sense. This is honestly manufactured outrage.

What if it’s dark outside. Is that a motorcycle? I can’t tell. I guess that motorcycle is turning left.

If it’s dark, both rear red lights will be on. It could be motorcycles, if they are really close together but that sounds unlikely.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by masklinn »

lttlrck wrote: post #41

Personally I find the Audi-style sequential lightshow signals far more stupid - and more distracting. These look odd in a static image where the reader has been primed by the title, but in real life they are flashing lights on the corner of the car. The animated GIF in the article isn’t confusing is it?

> The animated GIF in the article isn’t confusing is it?

I would say that it, in fact, is: once you see the arrow pointing the wrong way around it becomes difficult to "unsee" it.

I actually missed the issue in the video, the gif and text made the arrow "pop out", and now I can't unsee the clearly right-pointing arrow blinking at me, from a car which is certainly trying to turn left.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Post by hardlianotion »

codeduck wrote: post #35

How hard is it to go: oh, the left hand side indicator is blinking. It's possible they might turn left. It's common bloody sense. This is honestly manufactured outrage.

What if one tail light is slightly defective and you're in the dark. Driving is done with the subconscious and this potentially lethal in the wrong circumstance.
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