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Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

#41
Personally I find the Audi-style sequential lightshow signals far more stupid - and more distracting.

These look odd in a static image where the reader has been primed by the title, but in real life they are flashing lights on the corner of the car. The animated GIF in the article isn’t confusing is it?

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they cannot see their own turn signal lights while driving. You are supposed to inspect your car at least from time to time. This includes walking over to see your turn signals work correctly.

We're supposed to brush twice a day, get regular exercise, eat well, not get drunk, not smoke, have an appropriate work/life balance, limit screen time, get enough sun exposure, not get too much sun exposure, vote, floss, do unto others as we would have them do unto us, and change the oil every five thousand miles, too. But how is all that working out?

I do check my car every couple of weeks. I have a routine that takes about 3 minutes total. About twice a month so about 24 times 3 minutes ~ 1 hour per year.

Although I could argue it actually takes zero time because I usually do this while waiting for somebody else to get into the car.

As a side note, if you are too busy to brush your teeth you should consider talking to a health professional about consequences of not brushing teeth. Or maybe your wife/girlfriend.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

#43

How hard is it to go: oh, the left hand side indicator is blinking. It's possible they might turn left. It's common bloody sense. This is honestly manufactured outrage.

What if it’s dark outside.

Is that a motorcycle? I can’t tell. I guess that motorcycle is turning left.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Flashing the red brake light is a North American thing. Over in Europe you would have a dedicated amber light and I expect there is a different light than the Union Jack which would be reserved for combined rear and brake lights only. I’ve seen a mini with these lights recently here in Ireland and I’d expect the driver may find their car burnt out sooner rather than later.

> Flashing the red brake light is a North American thing Nowadays, the brake light is rarely used. It's usually a different part of the taillight cluster which may be red or amber, and most manufacturers (especially European ones, ironically) sometimes choose to use a red one for NA markets. The complaint here isn't that the brake lights are being used, but that the turn signal is designed like this.

I agree, it’s a baffling decision. I had a brief look to see if I could see the European implementation but I’ve not found anything yet.

Edit: here is an example:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0272/7303/5875/products/1_...

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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So the left turn signal is an arrow pointing to the right? And the right turn signal is an arrow pointing to the left? How does that pass, well, anything at all without someone saying “that might not be the best idea”!

How could anyone be confused? They’re on the side the car is turning - like every other turn signal you’ve seen in your entire life.

They're shaped like arrows pointing the opposite way, and we've had arrows for directions long before we had turn signals. If I ever see one of those in the street you bet I'll be confused for a split second. Being confused even for a split second is not a great thing when you're driving a two ton vehicle.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

#46

> Mini has not heard any concerns from customers regarding the rear turn indicators I wouldn't expect them to: they cannot see their own turn signal lights while driving. If they happen to be behind another Mini, they already know about it and it may not throw them off-guard like others who aren't familiar with it.

I got really frustrated when I started to see 3 rapid flashes when a Toyota or Kia driver put on the brakes on the Highway. What had been a common signal for “you’re a little too close” was now shown every time the driver pressed the brake pedal. I guess I could’ve complained to one of the manufacturers, but what do they care? I’m not buying their cars.

This isn't the manufacturer, they're aftermarket. It started (sensibly) with some emergency vehicles having it to make sure to get the attention of the driver[s] behind them. At some point people in high-traffic areas started thinking their 18 year old Corolla was worthy of the same treatment.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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So the left turn signal is an arrow pointing to the right? And the right turn signal is an arrow pointing to the left? How does that pass, well, anything at all without someone saying “that might not be the best idea”!

How could anyone be confused? They’re on the side the car is turning - like every other turn signal you’ve seen in your entire life.

Let’s talk again in the dark and something like 100m away

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're supposed to brush twice a day, get regular exercise, eat well, not get drunk, not smoke, have an appropriate work/life balance, limit screen time, get enough sun exposure, not get too much sun exposure, vote, floss, do unto others as we would have them do unto us, and change the oil every five thousand miles, too. But how is all that working out?

I do check my car every couple of weeks. I have a routine that takes about 3 minutes total. About twice a month so about 24 times 3 minutes ~ 1 hour per year. Although I could argue it actually takes zero time because I usually do this while waiting for somebody else to get into the car. As a side note, if you are too busy to brush your teeth you should consider talking to a health professional about consequences of…

Okay. You're so in the minority that we can safely say "nobody does this" and still have it be an accurate statement at a statistical level.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

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Flashing the red brake light is a North American thing. Over in Europe you would have a dedicated amber light and I expect there is a different light than the Union Jack which would be reserved for combined rear and brake lights only. I’ve seen a mini with these lights recently here in Ireland and I’d expect the driver may find their car burnt out sooner rather than later.

> Flashing the red brake light is a North American thing Nowadays, the brake light is rarely used. It's usually a different part of the taillight cluster which may be red or amber, and most manufacturers (especially European ones, ironically) sometimes choose to use a red one for NA markets. The complaint here isn't that the brake lights are being used, but that the turn signal is designed like this.

> It's usually a different part of the taillight cluster which may be red or amber,

Which remains one of the issues, even if it's not technically a brake light. In Europe red turning signs are not legal.

But I can see how the same turn signal in amber would help very little, as you'd still have a very clear, very bright arrow pointing the wrong way entirely.

Re: Congratulations, Mini, you made the stupidest turn signals ever

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do hope that all it takes is a few customers in a showroom asking the salesman "does it come without those stupid fucking indicators?"

FWIW, the answer to that question is yes. We bought a Mini a few years back and the Union Jack indicators were an upgrade (not a cheap one as I recall)

Cool!

I was trying to find out if they blinked in the weird arrow pattern by configuring one online, but it's impossible to tell (they're not shown blinking).

Kinda surprising that they're not keen on selling potential customers on the upgrade.

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