I wonder when the current digital behemoths will be disrupted by pirates again
Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
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Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> ... to digital abundance. Really? Spotify and Netflix pale in comparison to what Napster was. For all the content you think you have access to, Napster gave us the ability to see what other people had stored on their drives, stuff that they wanted to share rather than whatever media Spotify has a license for. That opened a world of discovery unmatched by any streaming service, or all of them put together. Want a c…
No streaming site will ever have licenses for the bizarre remixes of video game themes, or the Sesame Street theme, that made their way around Napster. More than the music, though, Napster had chat rooms where you could get legit recommendations of new music that far exceeded the recommendation engines of today.
You know, Soulseek exists.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#133Back then we were moving a terabyte a week on one Hotline Server alone. Napster was already way way more popular (and accessible).
Ah yeah. I thought that today everyone would run their own hotline server. Instead we have facebook
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Granted what I'm talking about is far below the level of the major music labels, but I still buy music on CD. Then I rip it to my network drive when I get home. The reason is that my family is into music that's way off the mainstream, and we've asked the musicians directly: "Which way of buying your music nets you the most actual money?" The answer is still buying their CD. I'm a musician myself but have no interest…
>The reason is that my family is into music that's way off the mainstream, and we've asked the musicians directly: "Which way of buying your music nets you the most actual money?" The answer is still buying their CD. I guess this depends on the genre, area, etc. But whenever I've talked to (low to mid level) musicians, live performances are basically the only way they make money. The sale of music is so ridiculously…
I'm certainly at that level myself. The music I play is done when it hits the walls of the venue. Or my living room. ;-) The main financial impact of recording for me is not having to spend any money on it.
There's a middle level out there. The genres I'm familiar with are things like folk, fiddling, some classical. Some of those people are good enough to travel a little bit, and have a supportive following. Sometimes a local organization will help arrange for a venue, and promote it. Those folks always have a briefcase full of CDs with them.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#135UC Berkeley used packet shaping to make Napster slow as molasses if you were downloading from someone outside the UC network (or Stanford because we had a direct connection to them). So you basically kept retrying till you found someone who was on a UC network connection and then noted their username so you could hit them up again next time.
Now those vendors that perfected traffic shaping for university p2p control sell the tech to oppressive regimes. Win win!
https://masaar.net/en/sandvine-the-surveillance-octopus-in-t...
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#136The internet at the turn of the century was something special. What we have now, I don't know, feels inauthentic.
Facebook is now using Facebook News to publish positive uplifting articles about how Facebook is a force for good in the world! In other words, pure propaganda.
Project Amplify.
https://www.thewrap.com/facebook-is-using-news-feed-to-promo...
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#137I vaguely recall there was some kind of chat built in to Napster and it was the era when people did sometimes turn off their computers and/or where in some countries they paid by the minute for internet. I recall getting a message from a German on the other side of the world that I was able to read and respond to because I just happen to speak German letting me know he was headed to bed but that he'd leave his comput…
And here you are on Hacker News, chatting with thousands of the smartest people in the world. This is the kind of quirky interaction you should be enjoying Right Now.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Grooveshark came close, but it was always going to get shut down
Hotline was pretty exciting. Did anyone else here get involved with this? [0] Back when broadband had just hit Seattle I ran a server on an old PowerPC IA paraphrased quote from a user: > I am actually signed to TVT records but it this server’s contents that enables my creativity. These days I pay for everything, but that testament to digital freedom sticks with me. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communica…
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I agree to delete all backups within 24 hours as per the internet act signed by Bill Clinton.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
No streaming site will ever have licenses for the bizarre remixes of video game themes, or the Sesame Street theme, that made their way around Napster. More than the music, though, Napster had chat rooms where you could get legit recommendations of new music that far exceeded the recommendation engines of today.
You know, Soulseek exists.
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Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Grooveshark came close, but it was always going to get shut down
Hotline was pretty exciting. Did anyone else here get involved with this? [0] Back when broadband had just hit Seattle I ran a server on an old PowerPC IA paraphrased quote from a user: > I am actually signed to TVT records but it this server’s contents that enables my creativity. These days I pay for everything, but that testament to digital freedom sticks with me. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communica…
Hotline is still up :) Now we use KDX, Pitbull Pro and a few others, but it's still around. Check out Preterhuman.